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  1. Obi.1 is offline

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    So, Aikido obviously works against resisting oponants...but no one will ever admit it?

    Is the new argument 'Aikido only works against resisting oponants in Aikido competitions'?
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    Heh no Obi, that is just the only venue that I have any experience in and the only one we have footage of. Everything else is just heresay.

    Different rulesets limit arts in different ways, BJJ vs Judo tourneys for example (from what people have said - no experience there personally).

    Certain adaptations of Kata techniques need to be made for effectiveness in randori, this is unique to each opponent and their style. In Aikido competitions the way techniques are adapted will be different then versus a Muay Thai fighter. That is common sense.

    The bottomline is this: Techniques need to be tested against different styles. Some will work on one style and fail on others, some will work from one position and fail from another, all are dependant on the player and his ability to adapt regardless of the art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi.1
    So, Aikido obviously works against resisting oponants...but no one will ever admit it?

    Is the new argument 'Aikido only works against resisting oponants in Aikido competitions'?
    The question is not If aikido works but more how to train to make it work against a resisting oponant.

    To make it work you need to train against resisting oponent (duh !)

    So far I have only seen tomiki aikido do that (as a style caracteristic I'm not saying their aren't any other dojo doing it)

    My art Yoseikan Budo is a bit different as we have karate/boxing/judo techniques on top of aiki ones but as I have said in the other thread I'm starting to be able to pull 'pure' aiki techniques while sparing so I know aikido works just not how it's practiced in a majority of dojos...
    Martial Arts is like sex, if you over complicate it with exotic sounding names, theories and principles, you end up fucking yourself in the ass. -Ronin69
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    Quote Originally Posted by NasalInfection
    Bleah, lose points as penalty for disengaging.
    What's the problem with that? All it means is that you're not allowed to run away.
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    No striking which is what 5 of the basic techniques are (sort of).

    I think Aikido needs to be tested in a more MMA environment.
    Fair enough.
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    Aikido is done at arms length, its not a grappling art. "Running away" is more like repositioning to be more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NasalInfection
    Aikido is done at arms length, its not a grappling art. "Running away" is more like repositioning to be more effective.
    As long as you're trying to grab the guy and put him down it should be fine. The rule prevents people avoiding fighting, it doesn't mandate blundering in like a zombie.
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    never met anyone who thinks aikido is gay kenpo is gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by superdude
    never met anyone who thinks aikido is gay kenpo is gay
    and wing tsun is for nerdy fags so your point being? yes you are a dumbass you took the words out of my mouth.:homo:
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    Quote Originally Posted by superdude
    never met anyone who thinks aikido is gay kenpo is gay
    Wow! Your argument is so logical and well-stated that I am completely convinced! Thank you for resurrecting this thread and enlightening me! I will now quit my useless martial arts and begin taking the ultimate combination of martial arts: Wing Tzun and Aikido! I can even buy me a pair of Magic Pants to wear while I'm chain-punching! Hallelujah!

    P.S. Wing chun is for bitches.

    P.P.S. Misspelled wing chun is for bigger bitches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn
    Why not mix the Judo in? It seems like the smooth transition to a backup plan would be a major part of Aikido for the non-superhuman.
    Because the Judo would work, and the Aikido would not, and then all you'd wind up with was a Judo tournament, albeit probably very poor Judo at that.

    However, it would still probably be alot better then I am . . .
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