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  1. Carbon is offline

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    5/28/2003 9:23am


     Style: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I don't care who you are but the rear naked choke will choke anyone.

    There is a person in my class named Felipe who is incredibly hard to choke because he has a thick neck and that's how he was built. He can take alot of collar chokes and most anytype except for things that are directly on his throat like a gullitine and a rear naked choke.

    I am just saying a weak person would not beable to perform the technique correctly on him and get him to tap you still need strength.

    Either the person didn't know how to do the technique or the forearm was not on the throat becuase a minute and a half is just bs when it takes lke 10 to 15 seconds for them to pass out.
    I'll make one when I can find one I like.
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     Style: Judo and BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If the positioning is slightly off it can throw off the whole choke.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
  3. Omar is offline

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     Style: Chinese Kung Fu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If you get you head turned in towards the elbow and tuck your chin, it's really hard to get BOTH arteries blocked.Then add using both hands to pull on the forearm to relieve pressure and you can last a fair while. I'm struggling right now to think if I've ever seen a rear naked that wasn't somewhat of a battle. Granted the choker generally wins but if both people got skills then it seems like it's always a bit of a struggle and occasionally the chokee manages to get turned around.

    BAH ! Puny Humans !
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    5/28/2003 12:15pm

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     Style: Chinese Boxing

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I don't care who you are but the rear naked choke will choke anyone.

    There is a person in my class named Felipe who is incredibly hard to choke because he has a thick neck and that's how he was built. He can take alot of collar chokes and most anytype except for things that are directly on his throat like a gullitine and a rear naked choke.

    I am just saying a weak person would not beable to perform the technique correctly on him and get him to tap you still need strength.

    Either the person didn't know how to do the technique or the forearm was not on the throat becuase a minute and a half is just bs when it takes lke 10 to 15 seconds for them to pass out.

    I'll make one when I can find one I like.


    Actually I've met two unchokable via the "rear naked choke" guys. One is Mark Hall of the UFC fame. I've actually had my coach try to choke this guy out and it wouldn't happen. We all theorize that his neck was a little different than everybody elses. <shrug>

    Go away I'm talking to myself
  5. Omar is offline

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     Style: Chinese Kung Fu

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    Royce would choke hime out. He chokes anything. ;)


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    did a lot of ground practise last nite with some people who've just been learning gi chokes (trad jj) woke up this mourning with what looks like love bits and marks all over my neck, funny but got a date with brand spanking nu girlfriend tomoz nite, anyone no anyway to get rid of em?? part from time, caus i aint got that!

    TMMA specilist, marital arts 10th dan soke!
  7. fighter is offline

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    people just dont no how to apply chokes right if they did it would work on any body
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    Posted On:
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    The rear naked will choke out anyone - it takes about 8 seconds to lose consciousness (it's happened to me a few times sparring in Vale Tudo). Even a slow choke will take less than a minute and a half, there is no way it could've been sunk in.
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    Posted On:
    5/28/2003 11:31pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'd put my money on chin tucked and weakness of the choker.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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     Style: Chinese Boxing

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    The rear naked will choke out anyone - it takes about 8 seconds to lose consciousness (it's happened to me a few times sparring in Vale Tudo). Even a slow choke will take less than a minute and a half, there is no way it could've been sunk in.

    Where the **** do you get your statistics!!!!!

    8 seconds? What are you trying to do? Kill somebody?

    It takes less than 3 seconds for a person to lose consciousness. I know we've done the fucking study. On the average it took everybody 1.8 to see stars. On the second go it took 2.5 with a 2.4 median and one person lasted 4 seconds.

    Don't talk about facts unless you've done some studying dude. We had a total of 12 conditioned athletes to do this on. No resistance involved. I'd go into further detail but it would be pointless.

    Don't say 8 seconds man you don't know what you're talking about.

    Go to your room now!!!!!!

    Go away I'm talking to myself
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