Cutting meat is often used as a way of showing the effect of different techniques and blades. There's a lot of question as to how accurate this is, especially when Lynn Thomas does it to convince you that Cold Steel knives and swords are the ultimate edged weapons in the galaxy, but then again, I don't know that anyone has done much better.
I can't see the video at work, did he say why he was using the meat? Like, what he wanted to illustrate? And did he simulate skin and/or clothing in some way?
yes to demenstrate how effective abox cutter could be against a body part such as an arm. the meat was the meat of the arm and seranrap(tm) rapped a few times was to simulate the resiliance of skin.
Originally Posted by Don "Jive Turkey" Gwinn
and as for convenceing if you simulate skin acuratley well then muscle is muscle and pigs have the closest muscle and organ placement to humans next to a munkey.
Tobias... is that you?
Originally Posted by Grashnak
Word. I'd love to be able to carry my Strider DB-L everywhere, but that's not happening. The closest to fixed blades that I carry regularly are the pair of Hideaway knives I have, in addition to a folder. Hideaways are like crack, I swear... (www.hideawayknife.com)
Originally Posted by Don "Jive Turkey" Gwinn
Bottom line is that it won't do **** for you if you can't (or won't) carry it.
Nice Mad Dog reference, BTW. I think Kevin McClung has a psychosis about folders...
I own a mad dog knife full ceramic. sharp as hell
Long ago in the last century, Mad Dog actually banned a guy for life from ever buying another MD knife from any "authorized source." The man's crime?
His name was Nam Viet Vo, and he loved Mad Dogs and owned a bunch. But he wanted a Mad Dog folder. Mad Dog frothed at the mouth at the suggestion that anyone would ever be so "un-tactical and unready" as to fold a knife in half, and to my knowledge he's still never made a folding knife that anyone outside his shop has seen.
Anyway, Nam Viet Vo solved his problem by taking one of his smaller MD knives and cutting the handle off. Then he had another smith cut the tang down, shape and drill it for a pivot, redo the heat-treat and use the resulting blade to build him a large "tactical" folder.
I thought McClung would have a stroke. I wonder if they ever spoke after that? At the 2000 Blade show, Vo was still saying he'd probably buy more Mad Dog knives since he liked them.
Come to think of it, they were both a little odd.
MBC/CBC student perspective
I've trained with Mr. Janich and I have to say that I think his system is well thought through and the training methodology is very good for training reflexive responses to certain types of attacks. He teaches what is essentially a Filipino knife style that has been modified and trimmed down a bit to work better for American sized people working in a civilian context. The targeting is designed to disable the attacker - killing them isn't the primary goal of this style. That said, when you're playing with knives, the targets that can disable people are often pretty close to the targets that can kill them (ie flexor tendons in the forearm are right next a major artery).
Originally Posted by aderinaru
A lot of the training is done with repeating patterns (sambrada etc) with two people wielding knives and taking turns. This is a way of programming responses and getting a lot of repetitions. Later, the practitioners begin to break out of the patterns and throw in extra attacks or break the pattern in some way or flow into a different pattern without stopping. Once students can do that then they start what is referred to as "the chess game" where there really is no pattern and anything could from any pattern could be thrown in at any time.
There is little or no knife sparring in MBC. I think the idea is that if you are getting into mano a mano knife fights then you're doing something wrong. There is, however, quite a bit of work done with learning how to deploy the knife under pressure during an attack.
Additionally, Mr. Janich teaches a Counter Blade Concepts course that focuses on dealing with an knife wielding attacker empty handed. I don't have as much experience with that system but from what I've seen/done it seems like a pretty solid way not to get stabbed in the vital parts. I'm not yet convinced of the methods for controlling the weapon and disarming the opponent but I haven't given it enough practice to really be able to judge.
Janice went to some classes and "stole" techniques from worthy practitioners the applied them in a haphazard. and ill advised format. Want real edged weapon training try those people he went to. One in particular is Kieth Moffett of Kun Lun Pai martial arts in Denver. Good luck.
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