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    Best defined as: Repetitive throw entries.
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    Thank you for this thread, also very important for tall people like me who seemingly have to get on our knees to get our hips below an opponent's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGALEF
    Thanks guys. Do you recommend keeping the heels down as if I'm doing regular weighted squats or stay on the balls of my feet?
    I felt like ranting on this even though I suck at throws, because this is what helped me with my tiny progress.

    I keep on the balls of my feet. Keeping the balance on your heels in this instance will render it VERY difficult to pull the guy while squatting. Learning your way up the "ladder" usually goes like this: Starting by learning the mechanics of a throw on a compliant opponent. Know the movement, know the theory. Do partnerless training if no one is around. Find two "lines" about two meters apart and start doing entry to the throw on them, back and forth until you're dizzy or just fed up.
    Repeat with training partners. Having three people doing uchikomi and rotating once every 2 minutes or something is good.

    IMPORTANT POINT! uchikomi is NOT dull entries and back again while the partner stands there paralyzed. You have to go in like you're going to execute the throw, but stop before you fully execute. If your partner has to struggle to stay upright and you also have to help him stand upright, then you're doing it right. The idea is to get the balance between as close to a throw as possible, and saving the time and strength it takes to get up a billion times. Key points in all of this? Communication. Like everything else. What's good with the three person model that I like, is that one will be entering, one will be feeling the kuzushi and one will be watching. Anyone notices anything wrong then say it and try to explain. Ah the joys of learning.

    Next step, nagekomi, completing the throw. Same as uchikomi, you go in, you complete the throw. This is the get the feeling of the throw. But the entry will always be the most important part. A lot of people feel uchikomi could be dropped and that it's just a waste of time to not get the feel of the throw at once. But uchikomi focusing so much on just the entry makes it easier to spot errors. It's a specialization tool imho. But I'm getting kind of ranting with this whole thing. I'm sure others can say this better than me. And correct me on points I suck on. This is just my own experience.

    Lastly randori. Yay!

    Outside regular training, strengthening the movement from the throw in any way (such as the beforementioned squats with or without weights) is a good thing if you don't overtrain all together :) .

    I also reccommend finding two or three favorite throws and go with them. If you have, what are they?
    More human than human is our motto.
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    Get surgical tubing wrap it around a post and use the post for entries....draw a line pretty low down and make sure every entery your hips are lower than the line.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
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    What's the point of the surgical tubing around the post?
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    When you shoot the tree with heroin you have to use surgical tubing. Duuhhhh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    When you shoot the tree with heroin you have to use surgical tubing. Duuhhhh.
    Is THAT how you do shooto? Damn, those guys are mesed up.
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    Put the tubing where the opponents arm would be for say seoinage and when you go for the throw, you'll get the resistance from the tubing as if you were doing the throw for real.
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