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    UFC and White Demographic

    I mentioned this on another post, and I thought, and I could be wrong, that it might be worthy of a thread. Basically, my thesis is, that the popularity in the UFC lies in large part to it's appeal to a mostly white demographic. The heroes of the sport, unlike boxing, are white, for the most part- Liddel, Couture, and especially Hughes, are easy to relate to, for the mostly white collegiate/working class 20-30 somethings in attendance. Meanwhile, most boxing matchs are with almost entirely black or latino atheletes. MMA/Kickoxing, is kind of like Hockey, which Chris Rock refers to as the last refuge of the white athelete-" once we learn how to skate, it's all over". I think this has a great deal more to do with it's success, than anyone has really mentioned. Most of the guys on TUF are white, with only a token African American. Boxing is filled with guys that the UFC/MMA has no relationship to, whereas, the young TUF fighters look like the guys you had over for your last beer bash. This may come off as Racsit, but it really seems like that is a major part of it's appeal. And after the whole Bond's Ruth thing, I can easily see the division. From a white guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    I want you to video yourself calling Carlos Newton a 'token', college-boy.
    Actually, I'm long out of College. I didn't say I wasn't being offensive, and your really haven't proven anyhting. Newton is one of the few black atheletes in the fight game, and he certainly doesn't fight the urban black mode of most US boxers, but your in England, so, you might not know what i mean....
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    Quote Originally Posted by new2bjj
    I mentioned this on another post, and I thought, and I could be wrong, that it might be worthy of a thread. Basically, my thesis is, that the popularity in the UFC lies in large part to it's appeal to a mostly white demographic. The heroes of the sport, unlike boxing, are white, for the most part- Liddel, Couture, and especially Hughes, are easy to relate to, for the mostly white collegiate/working class 20-30 somethings in attendance. Meanwhile, most boxing matchs are with almost entirely black or latino atheletes. MMA/Kickoxing, is kind of like Hockey, which Chris Rock refers to as the last refuge of the white athelete-" once we learn how to skate, it's all over". I think this has a great deal more to do with it's success, than anyone has really mentioned. Most of the guys on TUF are white, with only a token African American. Boxing is filled with guys that the UFC/MMA has no relationship to, whereas, the young TUF fighters look like the guys you had over for your last beer bash. This may come off as Racsit, but it really seems like that is a major part of it's appeal. And after the whole Bond's Ruth thing, I can easily see the division. From a white guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by new2bjj
    Actually, I'm long out of College. I didn't say I wasn't being offensive, and your really haven't proven anyhting. Newton is one of the few black atheletes in the fight game, and he certainly doesn't fight the urban black mode of most US boxers, but your in England, so, you might not know what i mean....
    Unlike this post, no bobbing and weaving.
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    Yes, this is exactly why white people don't like basketball.


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    Tom, look at the audience Tom. Better yet, ask a black guy, like the Chappelle routine. I live near Oakland, and all the ones I know have no interest in the UFC, but still follow boxing. I'm not saying that it's only for white guysx, or the only thing white guys will watch, but i think it a big part of it's appeal.
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    Then explain basketball's appeal to the white man while you are at it.


    EDIT: Also, the demographics of long distance running flush your theory down the toilet, too.
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