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  1. datdamnmachine is offline
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    Jiu Jitsu - Sometimes passing just isn't an option.

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    Rickson/Bullshido...Say It Ain't So...

    Here is an interview with Rickson Gracie I found. Interesting how he looks at things, the state of MMA, the abilities of some of the fighters out there. I decided to place it in this forum because of the comments he makes about cross training in other martial arts such as boxing, kickboxing, and wrestling make him sound almost like a lot of the traditional martial artist's out there. If this was posted before then opps! Enjoy!

    http://www.geocities.com/global_trai...racie_2005.htm
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    1% Shark is better than you.

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    FACT: Rickson is 400-0
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    Anyone who's seen a Rickson Gracie MMA match knows that he's not the end all be all to fighting.

    The fact of the matter is he has thousands of die hard fans that rave about him in a fanatical fashion. AKA Bruce Lee syndrome.

    Testimonies say Rickson Gracie is great at jujitsu... awesome... he still boxes with his hands at his waists.
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    Fact: Rickson by armbar
  5. FictionPimp is offline

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    I think his point was that there is a lot of bjj that is neglected in bjj training today. Clinch and takedowns, etc. I think he is saying if you have 'the real' bjj that you dont need boxing.

    I'm not sure I buy it, but thats what I think he was saying. The gracies have always been like this though, to them nothing can compare to jiujitsu.
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    Dark Overlord of the Bullshido Underworld

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShark
    FACT: Rickson is 400-0
    FACT: Even his own father called Bullshido on that claim.


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    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FictionPimp
    I think his point was that there is a lot of bjj that is neglected in bjj training today. Clinch and takedowns, etc. I think he is saying if you have 'the real' bjj that you dont need boxing.

    I'm not sure I buy it, but thats what I think he was saying. The gracies have always been like this though, to them nothing can compare to jiujitsu.

    That's why there are zero gracie champions right now despite the fact that their family puts out 101 fighters per generation.
  8. FictionPimp is offline

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    Hey, I didn't say i bought it. I'm just saying I think that is what he means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FictionPimp
    I think his point was that there is a lot of bjj that is neglected in bjj training today. Clinch and takedowns, etc. I think he is saying if you have 'the real' bjj that you dont need boxing.

    I'm not sure I buy it, but thats what I think he was saying. The gracies have always been like this though, to them nothing can compare to jiujitsu.
    Yep, not even Gomi's knee to Ralph Gracie's face or Hughes's beating of Royce. Shameless.
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    His comment saying that there was a lack of technical skill compared to someone like Muhammed Ali was interesting.

    I also found the comments about self defense aspects being undertrained interesting as well.
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