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    I love this mount position. I am only 160 and htis variation helps me easily keep mount on bigger guys. It alows for smoother and more fluid transitions for me, since I am not underneath anything (like a grapevine, or hips etc) I use it to set up the bat choke by grabbing in their collar from mount where it doens feel like there is any danger, hten going to knee on stomach to the bat.

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    Thanks for the tips, guys.

    And Sam, I only neck crank certain special people who are prone to being assholes. ;)

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    I always find it easier to escape side control than mount. Maybe it's because people get me in SC so much that I've had more experience with it.

    Holding pressure in SC requires effort. Sitting on top of the guy and "cooking" him like Os described only requires some balance and fast reflexes to stay on top.

    I'll have to try that foot positioning, though. Seems fairly stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Villain
    Its not the chest pressure that makes the mount good for cooking. Chest pressure is annoying but I've never seen someone tap from side control. From mount, you can create a nasty little heat bubble as you hover over them. This is mildly suffocating and adds to the claustrophobia. Most people can't do it, but my worst experience in BJJ is when my black belt instructor did that to see me quit (I didn't). He's not very heavy and didn't use much pressure. It was heat, lack of fresh air, desperation and claustrophobia that had me dying under there. The mount is far more frustrating a position and i guarantee you they'll start giving up subs if you cook them right
    I dunno if you've ever got to roll with Coleman cause he's like 215 or so but he loves to do that ****. He's likes to untuck his gi and throw over my head to make it even hotter. Plus his top game is so good that I can almost never escape once he's got mount. Drives me nuts.

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    My instructor will sometimes cup over your nose and mouth so that you have to let go of a grip and knock his hand away.

    Not because he has to but because it cracks him up.

    What a dickhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    My instructor will sometimes cup over your nose and mouth so that you have to let go of a grip and knock his hand away.

    Not because he has to but because it cracks him up.

    What a dickhead.
    Hahahaha! Is that legal in competition?

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    Well, just got around to testing Sam's original point of placing your feet on their hips when you've got them mounted, and it did work pretty well. It seems to give you a little extra leverage, and lets you feel what they are doing a bit better. We were just working positional, and I managed to get good mount hold downs on the other big guys pretty well using the trick. Nice tip, Sam!

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    You are hereby sentenced to teaching 4 weeks of ATA ground seminars for giving away the secrets of the frog mount.
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