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  1. pooeater is offline

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    I'm little

    Hi, I'm little, like 60kgs which I think is about 130lbs. Anyway, the guys I train with are ridiculously larger than me, I think the second smallest guy there is 90kg which i'm guessing is about 205lbs. Do you think this is bad in terms of rolling and sparring with guys only larger than me? 90% of the time I'm on the bottom when on the ground but that's understandable, where I live doesn't allow me to train with anyone my size that has any experience... just wanted to know peoples opinions, because when I have a fight will I be totally unnacustomed to someone that is my sized and will it matter?
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    Dood. Like Royce Gracie man. Just keep train.
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    How tall are you? If you can, try to gain some weight via lifting.

    Even if you can't, though, just stick with it. You'll have to adjust to fight smaller people, but it's not like it will be totally different.
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    Posted On:
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    Gain weight. Size matters when skill levels are equal.

    That being said, I watch a 150lbs black belt destroy guys who are 250-300lbs all the time. But rolling with that much of a weight difference is dangerous. You can get hurt a lot easier. Always accidental. But it won't matter.

    You really want to spar with guys AROUND your size. Within 20lbs or so. But working with really big guys occassionally is definately neccessary. You want to be able to deal with that strength and weight. Hopefully you deal by using technique and skill to keep that weight OFF you.
  5. Teh El Macho is offline
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    If you are over 5'6" or 5'7", you should work on getting weight, in packing up muscles. If you are new to weightlifting, the easiest way is to work on your legs (leg presses, squats)... SAFELY OF COURSE, and in conjuction with good nutrition.

    If you 5'5" or shorter, that may be more difficult. Still, 130lbs is a bit too short for an adult male. Either you are slim/skinny by nature, or you have been doing way too much cardio while not eating enough.

    Last but not least, don't neglect your cardio while you gain weight. I've seen a lot of people ditching cardio to gain 10lbs, and after the gain, they can barely run on a treadmill for 5 minutes. You don't want to gain weight and then gassing the **** out when rollling.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
  6. fanatical is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    Gain weight. Size matters when skill levels are equal.

    That being said, I watch a 150lbs black belt destroy guys who are 250-300lbs all the time. But rolling with that much of a weight difference is dangerous. You can get hurt a lot easier. Always accidental. But it won't matter.

    You really want to spar with guys AROUND your size. Within 20lbs or so. But working with really big guys occassionally is definately neccessary. You want to be able to deal with that strength and weight. Hopefully you deal by using technique and skill to keep that weight OFF you.
    I was going to bold out the important parts of this post. But it's all completely on target.
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    The big two variables that are missing here are 1) his height, and 2) his age. If poo is shorter than 5'5", I would put his max healthy weight around 150... maybe I'm wrong. Also, if he's in his 30's then that makes things a bit difficult. The 20's are the best years to gain muscle/weight.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Posted On:
    7/05/2006 12:05pm

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    It's not primarily a question of being healthy or not. If you're at a certain weight then it will be good for you to stay away from guys who are insanely heavier than you. The experience is good, but always rolling with a lot bigger guys WILL get you injured. I know this :P

    If he's looking for advice on how to gain weight there's a forum for that too isn't there?
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    Posted On:
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    True. Eventually the question will lean toward that, but it's true. The health and nutrition forums will be better for that type of discussions.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Posted On:
    7/05/2006 6:47pm


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    Totally agree with YrKoon. I am a small guy myself and most of my injuries have been accidentally incurred from big guys. My ribs hurt just thinking about it. Until you get considerably better or bigger, it's going to suck. It's going to suck a lot.

    Do you have any friends around your size? Try to recruit some people. If you roll with bigger people all of the time, you WILL get hurt. You may even end up giving up your training because of it.
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