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    I say Jiujitsu is distinct to the competitor. Take Eddie Bravo, his style is not nearly similar to that of say Rickson. I know that Helio and Royce's objective when in afight would be to hold someone in their guard until they make a mistake and submit them, while the Machados are more agressive. The only Machado I know anything about is Jean Jaques, he and Waggney Fabbiano are my favourite jiujitsu guys to watch.

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    I see. The thing was that I've seen a few references of people studying "machado jj", and then I found the following quote at http://academybjj.com/jj_history.html

    The Machado Brothers have developed their system of Jiu-Jitsu (gentle art) over the last 25 years. The Jiu-Jitsu they learned in Brazil has been refined by their clan into a modern and unique style which is increasingly popular in the United States.
    That sentenced highlighted above got me wondering whether Machado JJ stood for BJJ as taught by the Machados or if it constitute a brand new species shooting off the BJJ evolutionary tree.
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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

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    That is called marketing.

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    I guess you could consider them "modern" in terms of BJJ because they actually use leg locks constantly.

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    I just put Machado there because hes my instructor and I thought it would be good to be specific with my description.

    I haven't been training long enough or with enough people to say anything about what Machado teaches compared to other Jiu-jitsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    That sentenced highlighted above got me wondering whether Machado JJ stood for BJJ as taught by the Machados or if it constitute a brand new species shooting off the BJJ evolutionary tree.
    I think Roninpimp was refering to your 20 decades which equals 200 years. You do this every once in a while so, people not used to your writing style take it at face value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    I think Roninpimp was refering to your 20 decades which equals 200 years. You do this every once in a while so, people not used to your writing style take it at face value.
    Oh ****, my mistake :eusa_doh That was a typo, I wanted it to mean over 2 decades or over 20 years (referring to the Machados). If you hadn't mentioned this error, probably I wouldn't have become aware of it until much, much, much later.

    Anyways, I know it's marketing, but the question was if this was marketing based on facts (ala viagra improves your boners) or hype (ala Microsoft's "features")??? :eusa_thin
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

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    I always figured it was sort of a "Sponsor" thing, since there are several "Camps" that produce excellent competitors.

    My instructor is from the Machado "Camp", so when he wins tournaments, it looks good for Machado JJ.

    Sort of like hearing the gyms and training halls that various boxers come out of.

    i.e. "El Macho, weighing in at 375 lbs and standing at 9'11", fighting out of Fight Labs, California,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolinz
    I guess you could consider them "modern" in terms of BJJ because they actually use leg locks constantly.
    -Are there BJJ guys that don't use leg locks?

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