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  1. Teh El Macho is offline
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    question: machado jj and gracie jj/bjj

    I've seen several times on the net and here a reference to "Machado jj". My understanding is that the Machado brothers have been among the top of the bjj food chain for over 20 decades. However, when I see the term "Machado jj", that term seems to imply (at least to me) that this is a distinct style of bjj. I've searched around, and I can't find a definite, objective answer.

    Does "Machado JJ" only means BJJ taught under the Machado brothers, or does it stand for a distinct style. If so, what makes it distinct? :eusa_thin
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    I've seen several times on the net and here a reference to "Machado jj". My understanding is that the Machado brothers have been among the top of the bjj food chain for over 20 decades. However, when I see the term "Machado jj", that term seems to imply (at least to me) that this is a distinct style of bjj. I've searched around, and I can't find a definite, objective answer.

    Does "Machado JJ" only means BJJ taught under the Machado brothers, or does it stand for a distinct style. If so, what makes it distinct? :eusa_thin
    -BJJ = Gracie Jiu-Jitsu = Machado Jiu-Jitsu....And none of them are 20 decades old...
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    Machado's are under the gracie lineage. Carlos Jr. gave the highest ranked Machado's their black belts.

    Their instructor: http://www.bjj.org/a/people/gracie-c...linhos-jr.html

    Machado:
    http://www.bjj.org/a/people/machado-rigan.html
    http://www.bjj.org/a/people/machado-jean-jacques.html
    http://www.bjj.org/a/people/machado-carlos.html
    http://www.bjj.org/a/people/machado-john.html
    http://www.bjj.org/a/people/machado-roger.html


    It simply means BJJ taught under one of the Machado brothers.
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     Style: Judo, Tomiki Aikido, ??

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    Would you say that the strategies, training methods and favored techinques taught by the Macado Bros. are the same as are taught by Carlos Jr. and that Carlos' in turn are the same as Helio?
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    It's all pretty much the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz
    Would you say that the strategies, training methods and favored techinques taught by the Macado Bros. are the same as are taught by Carlos Jr. and that Carlos' in turn are the same as Helio?
    Actually no I would not. I also disagree with Aeso. Its not all the same.
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    We're probably going to end up arguing over what is meant by "pretty much".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesopian
    We're probably going to end up arguing over what is meant by "pretty much".
    Negative. This isn't the place for that. As far as is relevant to answer the OP's question. Your correct.
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    For reference purposes: Shaolinz and I train under an instructor trained by Carlos Machado.

    Gracie or Machado, it's all quality Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
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    And there this thread should end, forever elevating it, and BJJ, above the petty lineage wars of _Ing __Un.

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