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  1. Binary is offline

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    That's what they should sell DVD's of man. I would pay to see a two hour video of

    "Fat man v. Stair Master."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binary
    That's what they should sell DVD's of man. I would pay to see a two hour video of

    "Fat man v. Stair Master."
    Yes, you'd pay for a two hour systema video but after only two minutes the stupid porker would be lying dead on the ground after collapsing from a heart attack.
    Kungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Bullshido.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena
  3. DJR is offline

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    Is there any evidence that the Russian Special Forces currently train in anything like Systema? Here's a clip from documentary on Russian 'spetsnatz' training, and they are doing some heavy sparring that looks a lot like kickboxing or Muay Thai to me (at the beginning of the clip and again around 4:50 or so) :

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...518&q=spetsnaz
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatRun
    I think this is one of the UK TD vids mentioned.
    As far as I can tell:

    http://rapidshare.de/files/24849760/GEN2.WMV.html
    At first a kickboxer and a boxer (dont know anyones names sorry) sparring, then Paul Genge sparring with someone who's defnitely a WC guy, then more general sparring footage.

    http://rapidshare.de/files/24858462/DAMJEK01.WMV.html
    One of the systema students sparring somene who's standup style I just cant place but obviously knows a little grappling.


    http://rapidshare.de/files/24857012/VTPAUL.WMV.html
    Paul Genge sparring someone who looks like he has a bit of standup knowledge (christ knows what tho, maybe WC?) and a little bit of ground.


    http://rapidshare.de/files/24857511/robjekgrnd.wmv.html
    Rob ground sparring with the guy from the DAMJEK01.WMV video.

    http://rapidshare.de/files/24857829/vtjonnrob.wmv.html
    Rob sparring with the WC guy from the GEN2.WMV video.

    Thanks for sharing the videos.

    Interestingly enough, Systema as shown here reminds me of drunken boxing.
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    Where is the one of Grant where the roundhouse meets face?
  6. RatRun is offline

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    This one ?
    http://rapidshare.de/files/24908469/damdmkick.wmv.html

    No more requests - that's all the files & bandwidth I have.

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    Thank you very much.
  8. NoMan is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblackmagic
    Old boxing trick is to punch someone in the diaphragm while they are inhaling. When you exhale your muscles tense up and protect your organs, but when you inhale your diaphragm is vulnerable no matter how hard your abs are. I've yet to find anyone that is an exception to that rule.

    Try it out. Exhale all the air out of your lungs and press on your diaphragm. Inhale and do the same. Much softer.
    It's why boxers are taught to exhale when they throw punches. During that brief interval between the punch and the retraction of the punch, the stomach is exposed. If you forcefully exhale during a punch, (but don't open the jaw or there will be a Norton vs. Ali broken jaw *), it provides a protection against a possible counter-punch, under the assumption that a boxer with a good defensive posture will be hard to hit in the stomach. For bad boxers who flare out their elbows, well, they'll learn soon enough.

    * http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/bionorton1.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJR
    Is there any evidence that the Russian Special Forces currently train in anything like Systema? Here's a clip from documentary on Russian 'spetsnatz' training, and they are doing some heavy sparring that looks a lot like kickboxing or Muay Thai to me (at the beginning of the clip and again around 4:50 or so) :

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...518&q=spetsnaz
    It looks like the different Spetz groups do different hand to hand. Here's one that does Systema here. Discovery Channel did a documentary where Vlad took them to Russia to see a base.

    The clip you posted looks like Sambo. The guys are even wearing kurtkas (jackets).
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    Posted On:
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    Speaking froma boxing point of view, the sytema punches are different. They punch differently, with different outcomes. You are entitled to your opionions, its hard when you dont have some from systema to work with to expereince the punches. It is definately not sucker punches. The punches enter deep into the body. Certain points on the body when hit have different outcomes. I received strikes from the fat Russian in Moscow, you have to experince it to believe it. Discount some of the other stuff in the system, but take it from me there is something in the punches, and the way the top systema guys punch. It is not for the feint hearted, try a simple exercise. Find a partner, hit him for 2 mins on the body continously, with no rest inbetween the exercises and see how he copes. The shots have to be realistic and at a fast pace. Try and keep your arms and in particular uour shoulders relaxed, elbow bent. Hit as many parts of the body as you can in those two mins. Use different parts of your fist, as often as possible
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