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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    According to ICY and others, there is some decent Systema out there. I just want to see it out of interest. You'll not find me defending emotional therapy by striking or anything like that. I'm trying to find out if it's mainly Mikhail who does this stuff. Maybe I missed something in this thread, but I've not heard or seen examples of the same kind of nonsense from Vlad or his brother.
    Yeah, it is mainly Mikhail who takes on the role of corpulent comic, but Vlad certainly puts out some cringers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPO_MZvCI_I

    Did I post any of his comb techniques? I don't think I did. Maybe I'll save those for the next systema thread!!
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiai_killer
    Yeah, it is mainly Mikhail who takes on the role of corpulent comic, but Vlad certainly puts out some cringers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPO_MZvCI_I
    That was just.. bizarre.

    Did I post any of his comb techniques? I don't think I did. Maybe I'll save those for the next systema thread!!
    Comb techniques ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    Comb techniques ?
    Yup, self-defence with a comb. How else do you think he kicks ass when he doesn't have his glasses or cap on? Ahh, I just remembered, there are some wrist watch techniques too!
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak-m2iwI7Q

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    You're kidding me ? no really, you're kidding me ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    You're kidding me ? no really, you're kidding me ?
    I jest not, friend.
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak-m2iwI7Q

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    Everybody who wants to see this raise their hand. <raises hand>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    Everybody who wants to see this raise their hand. <raises hand>
    You'll wish you hadn't afterward. I'll dig them up and post 'em later if I can be bothered to go through it again.
    Straight punches make you go blind. More damage is done to a criminals nervous system when they are struck. Strikes that make you stronger. All this and more systema douchebaggery:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak-m2iwI7Q

    NEW BONUS REEL, feat RobG at it again! lol:
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    Uhhh wow. Hat vs. Gun and Sunglasses vs. Knife.

    Yeah they need to take that **** out.

    Comb techniques what next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    I say authentic because the Systema people that Karl Tanswell made to look stupid apparently aren't recognised as proper Systema by the practitioners posting here.
    Well, for every instance we can point to systema's BS, there's going to be a ready excuse to counter the truth. That is to be expected with cultists.

    Well yeah, but I've also read a few positive reports about Systema people being able to grapple and spar from Bullshido members who are known to do non-bullshit training. So it sounds like there a few systema groups out there doing stuff which Bullshido members would recognise as good, and it would be interetesting to see it.
    Remeber, RobP went up against a wing chun beginner that had zero grappling experience and nearly got choked out. RobP boast 30-years of martial arts experience while his throwdown opponent had virtually none but was still able to take RobP down and almost submit him. What does that say about "real" systema they keep telling us about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiai_killer
    Some of them may be able to fight at a decent level, they may do hard sparring - but it's all the extra BS that gets my goat. I would feel the same way if eg. the coach of a top MMA team started spraying out the same style of stupid. I certainly wouldn't go train at their gym! It doesn't matter if they can fight well, I'd rather not support the proliferation of BS in the martial arts.
    The mind of a systema cultist is an interesting one. Fact of the matter is, they can't agree on virtually nothing if it conflicts with their faith. They want us to see all these videos of systema, but the minute we mock and laugh at them, then we don't understand what we're watching and must attend a session of brainwashing to see things their way. Other purists will discount the videos altogether and insist attending seminars are the only way to experience systema in person. However, if an individual such as Karl Tanswell calls BS and steps up and disproves the validity of systema, then the systema instructor is then labled as not a reliable systema source (although Vlad's videos are sold on his website). Whenever the mystical and psychic aspects are questioned, they are excused as having being misunderstood by the general public or are said to have never been experienced ever by students even though the footage of 'Beyond the Physical' is everywhere on the net.

    It's plain to see systema requires the same cult-like mentality as any other religious zealot group, deductive and critical reasoning is obviously a foreign concept to these hopelessly deluded individuals.
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