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  1. Kungfoolss is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk
    Umm, wow? :confused2

    I don't know anything about knifework, but none of that looked practical to me. Is this video meant to sell the system?
    Of course, that's why RobP posted it on the net. However, if you find it impractical and downright laughable, then they say, "Oh, you're just too stupid to know what's being done." or "Come down to our school, don't judge what you see on the video clips." and "Our doors are always open - we'll even travel anywhere to prove our art ...unless Omega comes calling, then we can't make it."

    Funny, how they just couldn't find the time to aid Omega in his investigation of their art. It's only after the report is all wrapped up, RobP and his dunce sidekick RobG are suddenly available. Remember, systema hides from nobody...well most of the time. :toothy5:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kungfoolss

    See Karl Tanswell.
    for the umpteenth time numbnutz, Tanswell refers to Kadochnikov's Systema and even though he may not know the difference nor care to....this topic has been talked about already, and proven to be so by certain people who have far more accessible info from their own land than ur keyboard punching-fu


    Quote Originally Posted by Kungfoolss
    Funny, how they just couldn't find the time to aid Omega in his investigation of their art. It's only after the report is all wrapped up, RobP and his dunce sidekick RobG are suddenly available. Remember, systema hides from nobody...well most of the time. :toothy5:
    ohh the irony of you talking about hiding, u ***** boy

    RobP hides? right! because cuntfools of course has the facts right? that he used to live in the US? And he made his way to the UK in order to hide from a challenge????? riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

    And as RobG has stated, Omega and himself have been in contact and will get together eventually, and we all know u've read that on here, so u don't have much of a leg to stand on there dipshit

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    I wanna say this as slow and gentle as I can... systema is as crappy as hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kungfoolss
    You could always learn some awesome knife work from RobP. :laughing5
    Wow... ticklish!!!.... knifework(?):jerkit2yf
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    Quote Originally Posted by HANKtheTANK
    for the umpteenth time numbnutz, Tanswell refers to Kadochnikov's Systema and even though he may not know the difference nor care to....this topic has been talked about already, and proven to be so by certain people who have far more accessible info from their own land than ur keyboard punching-fu
    Comparing Kadochnikov's Systema to Ryabko's isn't an apples to oranges deal. I learned the same technique that sent Karl Tanswell into a fit from someone who picked it up directly from Vlad.

    (think I told that story in another Systema flame-war)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BumFu
    Comparing Kadochnikov's Systema to Ryabko's isn't an apples to oranges deal. I learned the same technique that sent Karl Tanswell into a fit from someone who picked it up directly from Vlad.

    (think I told that story in another Systema flame-war)
    It's not about the technique, it's about the training methodology. I was the one who originally pointed out that the instructor must have trained in a different system since he complained that Karl Transwell didn't attack in the "right way". This training approach is not used in the Ryabko system as the attacker is free to do what he/she wants.
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    Kungfoolss or kungdick?

    how are you qualified to judge a martial art you have no training in? You sound like a bit of a loudmouth to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BumFu
    Comparing Kadochnikov's Systema to Ryabko's isn't an apples to oranges deal. I learned the same technique that sent Karl Tanswell into a fit from someone who picked it up directly from Vlad.

    (think I told that story in another Systema flame-war)
    it may not be different fruits, but its definitely comparing a red apple to a green one.....the shape looks the same, but the taste is different

    from wikipedia (can't find any other sources for now)
    "This art is variously called Systema, "The System", "Russian martial arts" and "poznai sebia" (Russian language: know yourself). Although this art uses the same name as Kadochnikov's Systema, it is different in a number of ways, most notably because it doesn't directly study biomechanics. Training methods, views on history and many other subtleties are completely different."

    Many arts have distingguished styles within their name. For the most part, their differences are in the range of techniques. But Syatema is not based on techniques, so its hard to get a good comparison and it wouldn't be fair. But the philosophies are different. To put it loosely, K-sys puts priority on biomechanics more so than R-sys. R-sys utilizes more of one's own intuition and moves more freely.

    and about techniques and your story - i don't remember the post - again its not a technique based art. So we don't claim to have any distinguished techniques that we call our own. So seeing the same technique performed by both styles will happen. Its more a matter of movement; how the systema-ist 'got there', or what lead to the technique.
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  9. Kungfoolss is offline

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    Omega link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBoxX48_tAo&search=omega

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    Quote Originally Posted by BumFu
    Comparing Kadochnikov's Systema to Ryabko's isn't an apples to oranges deal. I learned the same technique that sent Karl Tanswell into a fit from someone who picked it up directly from Vlad.

    (think I told that story in another Systema flame-war)
    I'm guessing Hank believes one piece of crap smells different from the other.
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