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  1. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey
    Why do you care and why do you think it is so hard to get this connection ?




    I was wondering when you were going to bring up the fact that you just happen to be researching Systema and have expirence in a proven Russian Martial Art System .

    I was starting to think I was remembering one of your older posts wrong .
    I've always found it simpliar to just throw everything under the kung-fu banner. All these other ranks I have are just stuff I've been involved in. Technically I've been doing SAMBO for 14 years. I dropped using the name Combat SAMBO because of the limitations the name put on what I was doing. I practiced every system of SAMBO so I just say SAMBO.
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    You are taking KFS seriously? What the hell? He's a gimmick. He makes work go by faster and will never accept a challenge in earnest.
    Oh christ, I'm the only angel here. :eusa_ange
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    Oh sorry Ilbis.
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    I'm a fucking angel.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR
    There are movement/sensitivity exercises in which a knife tip placed against the torso is used as a point of reference - I'm guessing that the idea is that if you're ever in that dire situation, it's better to twist away and hope for a shallow cut across the bones and muscles (and then kill the other guy if you can) than to stand there and let them stab you.
    This is correct but I want to make an additional note:

    While there is a situational aspect to this training, the close knife work is primarily fundamental attribute training to get the body to move. It is not "technique". There is lots of other work to involve the rest (hands, arms, anything) in work against a knife but it begins with the body movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricH
    This is correct but I want to make an additional note:

    While there is a situational aspect to this training, the close knife work is primarily fundamental attribute training to get the body to move. It is not "technique". There is lots of other work to involve the rest (hands, arms, anything) in work against a knife but it begins with the body movement.
    Is systema knife work applicable to your survival? You be the judge, folks keep in mind as you watch these laughable clips that Arkadiy Stepankovskiy was stabbed to death. ->

    http://system-chicago.com/m_4.htm

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    Omega, you made a comment that your fellow instructors found the shovel defense applications interesting?

    Realistically, what are the chances you're going to have a shovel in hand when you get attacked on the street, in a bar setting, or even in your house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricH
    This is correct but I want to make an additional note:

    While there is a situational aspect to this training, the close knife work is primarily fundamental attribute training to get the body to move. It is not "technique". There is lots of other work to involve the rest (hands, arms, anything) in work against a knife but it begins with the body movement.

    I took this into account when I looked at the knife stuff. I refused to give a report on the knife stuff until I got more videos on what lead to the techniques. I'm sorry but I don't care what you say , the knife stuff is crap, a lot of the grappling is crap, a lot of the throwing concepts are crap, the gun stuff is mucho crap almost as bad as the knife, kicking super mucho crap, ground grappling 60% crap, self-defense based on the systema movement 85% crap, defensive theory is crap. The only validity I saw in the training was it's need to get the students to relax, but I've found this comes with experiance, and, imo, should not be drilled ad-naseum because it'll eventually come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kungfoolss
    Omega, you made a comment that your fellow instructors found the shovel defense applications interesting?

    Realistically, what are the chances you're going to have a shovel in hand when you get attacked on the street, in a bar setting, or even in your house?
    *shrug....

    He said the knife throwing stuff was pretty good too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricH
    This is correct but I want to make an additional note:

    While there is a situational aspect to this training, the close knife work is primarily fundamental attribute training to get the body to move. It is not "technique". There is lots of other work to involve the rest (hands, arms, anything) in work against a knife but it begins with the body movement.
    That's what I meant to imply by calling it a movement/sensitivity exercise. I appreciate that a lot of Systema "attribute training" is mistaken for technique demos; in fact, I think that's one of the main reasons why people jump to the wrong conclusions about the art itself.

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