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  1. hapkido_keith is offline
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    Sambo?

    This question is partially inspired by some of Omega's comments in the BJJ nutriding rants.

    Just what the hell is Sambo anyway?
    The only thing I've ever really heard about this art is that it's grappling, focuses on leg locks, and is Russian in origin (and I'm not even sure on that last point).

    How does Sambo differ from other grappling arts? Are there Sambo tournaments/sport competitions and how are they scored? (for example: BJJ is to submission but points can be scored by getting dominate position, Judo is to ippon or submission but points can be score by lesser throws, etc).

    I'm genuinely curious. I tried the search function but wasn't able to pin down a good description of the art itself.
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    is google out of order again?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo_(martial_art)
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    As far as I know, there are three types of Sambo:

    Combat Sambo = MMA with a jacket(kurtka), but I believe it also has a points system similar to other Sambo comps.
    Freestyle Sambo = Submission Grappling with just a jacket(kurtka)
    Sport Sambo = Basically Judo with leglocks instead of chokes, and not as many restrictive rules.

    There's more to each, but that's the gist of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T3hJudoChop
    As far as I know, there are three types of Sambo:

    Combat Sambo = MMA with a jacket(kurtka), but I believe it also has a points system similar to other Sambo comps.
    Freestyle Sambo = Submission Grappling with just a jacket(kurtka)
    Sport Sambo = Basically Judo with leglocks instead of chokes, and not as many restrictive rules.

    There's more to each, but that's the gist of it.
    No

    Combat SAMBO (remember SAMBO is an acronym for SAMozashchita Bez Oruzhiya or self defense without weapons); is military hand to hand techniques
    Sport Combat SAMBO=MMA style or sport Juijitsu style
    Yes
    Self-defense SAMBO=restraining holds etc. similiar to Aikijujitsu
    Sport SAMOB or Jacket Wrestling:
    sort of;
    Freestyle SAMBO=Modern American SAMBO with incorporation of all styles of grappling without the jacket.


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    More importantly, why?
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    I understand that Sambo allows grips that are considered unorthodox, and for which you can get penalized in judo :tard:
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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    I understand that Sambo allows grips that are considered unorthodox, and for which you can get penalized in judo :tard:
    Please, explain!!!!!!!
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    You can't hold a grip that is not "normal" for more than 5 seconds. A "normal" grip when standing is basically you hold the right side of the opponent’s gi (ie. top of the shoulder, sleeve) with the left hand, and the left side of your opponent's gi with your right hand, and always above the belt.

    Sambo allows for cross-hand grips and to grip from the belt without penalization while standing if I understand correctly. Sambo owns a lot of that from the folk wrestling styles that were part of its inception. You could do the same grips in judo comps, but you have 5 seconds to execute a throw or to change your grip to a normal grip... a moronic rule if you ask me :tard:
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Villain
    So which is the group that forbids chokes in tournaments?

    Sport SAMBO, and I don't really know why though I've been told a few stories.
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