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  1. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caddock
    I have gotten a kick out of this thread. I don't really care who is right or whatever but here is some small dry kindling for the fire.

    UFC 1 November 1993

    2nd Annual USA Amateur Shooto Competition held in June 1994 - maybe we can extrapolate that the 1st one was the same time the year before June 1993? If so this would beat UFC 1 by 5-6 months. http://cgi.ebay.ca/INOSANTO-AMATEUR-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Obviously we can tell which one was marketed better and has survived. Anyone have any experience with Shooto from back then? Obviously people were doing some kind of MMA in the US before UFC 1 aired, albeit on a small scale.
    1994 vs 1993 and you don't know which came first? Wrong year comparison?

    Shootfighting was well before UFC, Shootboxing was here in the U.S. Shooto was an offshoot promotion from the Shootfigting/Pancrase style/promotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    1994 vs 1993 and you don't know which came first? Wrong year comparison?

    Shootfighting was well before UFC, Shootboxing was here in the U.S. Shooto was an offshoot promotion from the Shootfigting/Pancrase style/promotion.
    I think he's saying that if the second annual competition was held in June of 94, then the first annual competition would have been held the same time the previous year-- several months before UFC 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    1994 vs 1993 and you don't know which came first? Wrong year comparison?

    Shootfighting was well before UFC, Shootboxing was here in the U.S. Shooto was an offshoot promotion from the Shootfigting/Pancrase style/promotion.

    Well I know which year came first but I had no link to provide that showed what month the first amateur Shooto comp was. So I said maybe we could assume that it happened in June 1993
    (since the 2nd happened in June 94) which would beat UFC by a few months. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
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    Wrestling, MuayThai and BJJ cover throws, submissions, and striking, what is a better combination of arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SevSB
    Wrestling, MuayThai and BJJ cover throws, submissions, and striking, what is a better combination of arts.
    ... and you probably still suck.
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    Another classic BJJ nutriding thread presented here...by SevSB

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36459

    Why don't some of the qualified BJJ person jump in there and put the rider in place for making very, very vague comment and basically trying to say BJJ pwns the world then decided to change his mind when pressed.

    Such as this...

    Quote Originally Posted by SevSB
    Any martial art that tell you how to defend and counter against a person holding a knife and attempting to stab you cant be taken veryt seriously.
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    The truth is BJJ will prevail against any striking art because once the gap is closed, what can a striker do, and it isnt easy to stop the gap from closing since just about all fights go to the ground. The documentary the "Gracies in Action" shows grapplings effectiveness again any striking art.
    In that thread someone already pointed out fact that BJJ includes knife defense.
    Last edited by babo78; 7/10/2006 9:46am at .
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    All three of you get the **** away from this evil thread. Now!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babo78
    Why don't some of the qualified BJJ person jump in there and put the rider in place for making very, very vague comment and basically trying to say BJJ pwns the world then decided to change his mind when pressed.
    Because the thread was started while I was sleeping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SevSB
    Wrestling, MuayThai and BJJ cover throws, submissions, and striking, what is a better combination of arts.
    Muay Thai hands suck.
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