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  1. Fighting Cephalopod is offline
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    Submitting 1d6 Investigators per round

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    Quote Originally Posted by DngrRuss1
    No- never said that I fought 8 and won. Said I was alone against 8 fighting each other and not only survived, but came out on top. I was the one tossing bodies out the door and trying not to get hit with pool cues- grappling wouldn't have helped me at all.
    ...unless one of them tackled you. In which case, grappling would have been what would have allowed you to escape back to your feet, rather than lie there pinned while the other seven had a boot-party.
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     Style: BJJ - Homeland Security

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
    Practicing a martial art whose techniques come from Jujutsu is not larping.
    Maybe they should have taken techniques that didn't suck, since BJJ and Judo threw them away.

    Quote Originally Posted by DngrRuss1
    I didn't come to this site to demand respect for myself- and have received very little. I thought this was about exposing fraud. Styles cannot be frauds- a style is an idea. Only a man can create fraud.
    Ideas can be predicated on fraudulent or untrue assumptions.
    Last edited by Shuma-Gorath; 6/28/2006 5:18pm at .
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  3. MrMcFu is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Jones
    Practicing a martial art whose techniques come from Jujutsu is not larping.
    But practicing those techniques like a ***** is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
    Ideas can be predicated on fraudulent or untrue assumptions.
    Bingo! Shuma-G for teh win!
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  5. Mr. Jones is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
    Maybe they should have taken techniques that didn't suck, since BJJ and Judo threw them away.
    They don't suck. They can be used against competent opponent. Aikido guys who cross train in Judo say they pull Aikido techniques during Judo randori. Threw them away you mean like punches, knees and elbows that aren't used in Judo?
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  6. RaiNnyX4 is online now

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     Style: Aikido/Judo/BJJ/Naginata

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMcFu
    But practicing those techniques like a ***** is.
    Agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
    Maybe they should have taken techniques that didn't suck, since BJJ and Judo threw them away.
    Disagree. http://www.judoinfo.com/katagosh.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by KempoFist
    Hah, a friend of mine uses that very same analogy. "Trying to say you can fight because you do all these compliant techniques is like a civil war re-enactor saying he's practiced enough and he's ready to go to war. LARPing is LARPing."
    Does this count?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmRQtu8vrKs
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    Oh wait, you tossed out people while bouncing?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    That really isn't any vindication of your "point".
    Bouncing has **** all to do with your "point".


    As for that thread, what most people said wasn't nutriding but making fun of what was most likely a completely fabricated story, or at least a moron.
    Winning against multiple opponents with serious intent is not some easy thing that you can learn. The best you can do is extract yourself well enough to run.
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     Style: Muay Thai , BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by DngrRuss1
    Styles cannot be frauds- a style is an idea. Only a man can create fraud.
    ... Guess who creates ideas? A person. Guess who came up with the style? A person (a few cases: people). Guess where is the only place ideas can exist? A person. Omgz guess who applies ideas? A person. So if a person came up with an idea, the idea was a style, the person applied the idea and created the style. Guess who creates the fraud? Either the person who created the style or the people who currupted the style. Either way, the style is worthless.

    Look at it this way. 1000000000 used car salesman that are all slimeballs. However, at one time you met a used car salesman that wasn't a slimeball. Would you say car salesman are slimeballs? If you wouldn't then here: :pancakebu
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    Quote Originally Posted by DngrRuss1
    No- never said that I fought 8 and won. Said I was alone against 8 fighting each other and not only survived, but came out on top. I was the one tossing bodies out the door and trying not to get hit with pool cues- grappling wouldn't have helped me at all.
    It may just be me but your wording needs work. Even if you were alone and they were fighting each other you are kinda implying that you WON. At least thats what "came out on top" implies to me.

    Also if you were TOSSING pple then grappling DID come into play and helped.



    I thought this was about exposing fraud. Styles cannot be frauds- a style is an idea. Only a man can create fraud.
    Incorrect. Styles can indeed be FRAUD because the are created by MAN. By your logic Ashida Kim's Koga Hai Lung BS is not fraud because its simply a style. I know you are smart enough to see error in your statement.

    And part of fighting fraud AND BS (note those are BOTH goals of this site) in MA is exposing styles and schools that promote things that are outdated or downright WRONG as being applicable to modern combat. I know many pple (mainly of the TMA camp which I still am a part of) will say that personal combat hasn't changed but they are oh so wrong.
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