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  1. UltimateGaijin is offline

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     Style: kickboxing

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    trained briefly at the Aikikai and Yoshinkan hombus, was greatly unimpressed
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    I stopped in at the Budo Center in Kyoto for two classes. I was very unimpressed. The level of compliance was joke-worthy.
  3. Virus is offline
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    Why doesn't Japan change it's name from "Land of the Rising Sun" to "Land of the Real Aikido"?
  4. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    because you can't have a white flag with goddamn magic pants in the middle. it's the vexillological equivalent of a kickme sign.

    the alternative - actually strapping hakama to a flagpole - would constitute a black flag of piracy. "we are here to steal your ki, to appropriate your center of gravity and replace it with our own. please, grab our national wrist."
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     Style: ASU Aikido

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    I have trained often with Mitsugi Saotome sensei, who was and ushideshi of Ueshiba, and Hiroshi Ikeda, and Tekada seinsei.
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     Style: Aunkai, Tokyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateGaijin
    trained briefly at the Aikikai and Yoshinkan hombus, was greatly unimpressed
    I think that tends to be a given for just about any Aikido school over here :toothy2:

    *hijacking thread*
    Are you guys having a throwdown in the near future? The shinjuku sports center reopened their doors after having their heads removed from their asses.
    I've got some Japanese sub grappler peeps I can bring along.

    :happy8:

    *now returning to your regularly scheduled bashing of aikido*
  7. noodles is offline

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    From my limited experience -- what Ultimate Gaijin about unimpressed, and what Upyu implied about being unimpressed. And what Asia said, at the risk of being seen as currying forum favor by sucking up to Asia.

    About 3 hours ago I had a bit of Juko randori against an aikido instrucotr. He was pretty good -- good balance, decent sense of kuzushi (and an overall nice guy) -- but his aikido style is apparently considerably harder that the usual peace-and-love niceness.

    And Upyu, don't ask me about the next throwup. The only training I've been doing lately has been cleaning baby poo off my legs. Looks like Ultimate Gaijin is the man.
  8. GRAB MY WRIST is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateGaijin
    trained briefly at the Aikikai and Yoshinkan hombus, was greatly unimpressed
    I think U.G. sentiment may be with good reasons. Yoshinkan / Aikikai as an organization is so large nowadays, good quality instruction may be difficult to maintain among the masses. I speculate the only possiblity you can get good quality instruction is to be an uchi-deshi over there. Anything else you are just learning the other shell and not the gist of the matter.

    There was some debate that some smaller independant organization may actually be better at teaching the useful stuff, as the instructor are closer to the students' needs and requirement and they can tailor to the individual needs.

    I guess I am lucky to be able to study under aikido teacher who happens to be an ex-judoka, and has trained under Kancho Shioda himself.

    GMW.
  9. UltimateGaijin is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAB MY WRIST
    I think U.G. sentiment may be with good reasons. Yoshinkan / Aikikai as an organization is so large nowadays, good quality instruction may be difficult to maintain among the masses. I speculate the only possiblity you can get good quality instruction is to be an uchi-deshi over there. Anything else you are just learning the other shell and not the gist of the matter.

    There was some debate that some smaller independant organization may actually be better at teaching the useful stuff, as the instructor are closer to the students' needs and requirement and they can tailor to the individual needs.

    I guess I am lucky to be able to study under aikido teacher who happens to be an ex-judoka, and has trained under Kancho Shioda himself.

    GMW.

    so now the excuse for aikidos crapness when it comes to self defense is that even at a honbu you have to be an uchideshi????

    wots the next level? you have to be reincarnated? The quality at the honbus is fine, it's the art the sucks (for self defense
  10. Kokujin is offline

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     Style: BJJ(blue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD ASIA
    There was a Aikido class where I trained Judo back in the Japan. I didn't do any then. I didn't really get into Aikido until college and I did go to seminars with visiting teachers. (I was asked to leave a few of them too.) Still most of the Aikido guys who get respect have one thing in common, Judo.
    Asia, why were you asked to leave those seminars? Kokujin fobia on their part or did you call bullshido on their asses?
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