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  1. Flipper is offline

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    ever experienced aikido from Japan?

    I'm a past life (looooong ago), I got to attend some seminars conducted by the visiting shihans from the Aikikai. I must admit that some of them did quite powerful aikido, and were very much into striking, particularly Sensei Hayato Osawa.

    Yes, I know that I'm courting a flaming about this, but I'd like to know if anyone has had the experience of training with any of the professional instructors from either the Yoshinkan, Aikikai or the Iwama group and what they think of their skills.

    (yes, aikido in general does not do ground work so let's skip the "BJJ vs. Aikido" slant. I want to know about standup and how the professional japanese instructors compare to what you think of aikido in general)
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    oh ****...double post...sorry
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    The guy I learnt from was from Japan and was a direct student under Shioda. He was very good, but at the end of the day it's still Aikido and has huge wholes in it training method's and philosophy that leave something to be desired.
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    Quick question.......where in Manila do you study kali? It wouldn't happen to be the Pitbulls under Rommel Tortal would it?
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    During my study abroad in Japan I noted that there were two aikido classes on campus. One was run by a foreigner and his Japanese wife (Segal desuka?!?!) with nothing but foreign students, I got to attend that class and I was not only unimpressed but insulted at several turns. The other class I watched from time to time was much smaller, Japanese students only, and they were far more serious and ernest in their training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical
    Quick question.......where in Manila do you study kali? It wouldn't happen to be the Pitbulls under Rommel Tortal would it?
    Yes, I'm a member of the Manila Pitbulls. And where do you study PTK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper
    I'm a past life (looooong ago), I got to attend some seminars conducted by the visiting shihans from the Aikikai. I must admit that some of them did quite powerful aikido, and were very much into striking, particularly Sensei Hayato Osawa.

    Yes, I know that I'm courting a flaming about this, but I'd like to know if anyone has had the experience of training with any of the professional instructors from either the Yoshinkan, Aikikai or the Iwama group and what they think of their skills.

    (yes, aikido in general does not do ground work so let's skip the "BJJ vs. Aikido" slant. I want to know about standup and how the professional japanese instructors compare to what you think of aikido in general)
    There was a Aikido class where I trained Judo back in the Japan. I didn't do any then. I didn't really get into Aikido until college and I did go to seminars with visiting teachers. (I was asked to leave a few of them too.) Still most of the Aikido guys who get respect have one thing in common, Judo.
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    God damn, going back and reading that thread was fun.

    All those typos..... I can't believe how much I drank over in Japan! That's what happens when there's a beer vending machine right next to your dorm entrance- like less than 30 feet away ^_^

    Ah, good times, good times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper
    Yes, I'm a member of the Manila Pitbulls. And where do you study PTK?

    With Leslie Buck in Austin, Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical
    With Leslie Buck in Austin, Texas.
    I met him once, when he visited us. He's very good. You're lucky to be studying under him.

    :)
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