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  1. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    got some heavy bag questions

    for the record, i have done quite a bit of searching and reading before posting this. here's the situation:

    i want to hang a heavy bag, possibly inside, possibly outside. my old heavy bag (vinyl covered bag with a picture of a boxer on it; his name is jab everlast, for those who care) is currently living at the dojo, where it is useful - before i brought it in, the heavy bag there was a fifteen year old torn up (stuffing flying out) canvas everlast. both of those bags are regular old 14x48 75lb bags.

    last week at good will, i snagged a 14x42 50lb vinyl bag (tko round one; i figure it came out of a youth kit) for five bucks. now this is handy for a few things, but it's not really worth hanging up (given the light weight).

    i've talked to my instructor; he says it's fine if i bring it in and swap with the torn up bag at the dojo. that increases utility for in class, and leaves me with 75lbs of shredded fabric type stuffing.

    is it worth doing this and getting an unfilled bag to put it in? if so, what sort of bag? i see i can get a canvas bag for $40 from ringside. question is, is hanging a canvas bag full of shredded fabric outside as stupid as it sounds? should i say the hell with it, and buy something more waterproof (and possibly heavier) from the start?
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    Order an unfilled muaythai bag for $79.99 and then you are set.

    If you can afford it, get the leather one.
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    I've got a 100lb TKO filled with cotton or some kind of cloth I guess. My bro bought it. Thankfully, where I workout is the only place to store it:)

    It's good. Real good.
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    6/22/2006 7:47pm

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    Vinyl bags are for soft hands.
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    I bought the leather one and filled it with wood from a chipper.

    I don't recommend that if you have tender shins and elbows but its a very inexpensive filler since it is available in bulk from any wood recycling place for next to nothing.
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    6/23/2006 10:11am

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    hmm. i wonder if i've got room for a six foot bag out there. my plan was to build off of a preexisting wooden tower, if i can get a stable gantry constructed. (handy that my sister's an engineer and my cousin's a carpenter, eh?) i'll have to measure the vertical clearance. i know it's more than enough for a four footer.

    of course, i've only got four feet of stuffing. i'd have to bulk that up somehow. otoh, i could just fill it with something more weather resistant. maybe tape up the zipper.

    as much as i would love to have a leather heavybag, i don't think i'll be buying one for outdoor use ;)
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    If those rags inside the bag get wet then you are going to have mold bigtime.

    You wouldn't want to be hyperventalating toxic mold whilst training.
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    yeah... i'm pondering other fills. sand is cheap and traditional, but it settles enough as is, and the last thing i want is to kick a bag full of settled WET sand. everlast apparently fills their indoor/outdoor bags with rubber balls, but i don't exactly know of a cheap source for those.
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    ok, after some measuring, i think a 6ft bag is out. looks like i'd be hanging things from a 'ceiling' of 82 inches, and i suspect i'd want more than ten inches of clearance for the chains and the ground.

    though i suppose i could reinforce the structure and raise the mount point...
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    I love the fake leather Fairtex bags. I dislike vinyl bags in general but the Fairtex one at our gym is a really great texture for bareknuckle. It is also available ina 4ft length for your space problems.

    http://www.fairtexgear.com/html_docu...em.asp?p_id=52
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