Dale defends the Lunge punch
Now I believe that it should be in kata and I have even made a usage for it similar to the SBG boxing blast but with 2 committed fast Lunge Punches after I have set it up. I don't use if very often. I think a boxing delivery system is much better for modern fighting.
Originally Posted by Dale Seago
He brings up the lunge punch..then doesn't mention it again as he goes into obscurity.
I'm glad to know his biggest concerns are guys with swords.
I mean warfare hasn't changed at all in the last few hundred years. You either have a sword, or grab a wrist.
It was indeed a piss poor attempt to cloud the topic. Then offer logically sounding arguments that having nothing to do with it.
This man fails at the intrawebs.
Maybe I'm missing something. what does a lunging strike, with a weapon, have to do with a lunging punch?
The body mechanics are the same. Most Koryu (I am not saying BJK is Koryu) and also BJK CQC based their strikes on movements they were familiar with, weapons. The oi Tsuki or lunge punch has the same mechanics of a spear thrust, wakizashi or tanto stab.
I hereby nominate Dale Seago for Tool of the Year.
So because lunging at someone with a spear or sword is a valid technique, that means doing the same thing with a fist is also?
Maybe he would have a point if he was discussing a blunt weapon but the use of something sharp and metal is way different from a blunt object like a fist.
Right but his first paragraph sets the tone.
Originally Posted by shinbushi
Many people from modern sportive arts, who apparently have no understanding of what they're observing, criticize the same-hand/same-foot forward "lunge punch" often seen in the Bujinkan and "spinoff" arts (e.g., Genbukan and Jinenkan) as unrealistic. . .at best. (And in fact, I have my own criticisms of it, but I'll save that for a wee bit yet.)
So, he goes into this huge diatribe which, doesn't address the compliant lunge punch every MMAer laughs at and thinks is silly. I've seen lunge punches. Hell, Mike Tyson was good at lunge punches in his early career.
My point was all the weapons talk and history don't address the issue he raised of non-understanding. The lunge punch critiques I've encountered, are all based on compliant partners.
Funny thing is if he left the dig at Sports fighting out, the article isn't all that bad.
The article does not draw an introduction/conclusion well. I read it and was wondering what he was trying to say. And the dig at sports fighting was stupid.
Originally Posted by It is Fake??
As a technique, there's nothing really wrong with the traditional karate lunge punch -- it's really just a long jab or straight punch at heart anyway. Delivered fast and hard it can be an effective point of entry or the start of a combination -- as long as it's part of a combination and none of that crappy Ippon-Kiai-Pose for the Referee bullshit.
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