Originally Posted by Lane
I learned the same thing. The weapon of choice Pre Tokugawa was the Yari.
I am not sure what year Jigen Ryu was created. But what you said makes sense.
Pick up a bokken, go to Japan and challenge them. Then when you get out of the hospital tell us what you think.
Originally Posted by colonelpong
that's not going to prove a damn thing about cutting technique - just that they know how to beat the **** out of him with a bokken. they've clearly got their bludgeoning skills down.
which is infinitely more useful than sword work, anyway.
Originally Posted by pauli
If I remember I story of Musahi, that he couldn't cut your down, he just beat the hell out of you with a sword. So there are merits of just beating the **** out of someone with a razor sharp piece of metal.
They had proper cutting technique. If I can be allowed to speculate, they probably don't start out with suburi like that. They probably train in a much more restrained fashioned to learn the mechanics, and this type of training is added at a later date.
The mechanics of using the Japanese sword are such that a ferocious attack like that might be effective, if not at killing your opponent then forcing him to use his sword to parry or block the strikes. The Japanese sword cannot stand up to much edge-to-edge contact because of the way it is forged.
Had to watch the videos a few times until I realized those fighters were not simple clowns.
Now, I wonder, apart from making one strong and hard, what are the technical aspects of this Jigen Ryu?
Saw a more technique-focused video on youtube, but with the performers there being Westerners, I am not sure it was a proper representation.
You better have more than that to add if you're going to bring back a thread that's been dead for a year and a half.
He sounded more like the first girl I layed......
Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
The Jigen-ryu was one of the schools practiced by Satsuma samurai and was thus briefly used to chop the crap out of Okinawans. It's a major influence on Okinawan martial arts, as post-occupation it was studied by Okinawa's military castes. Sokon Matsumura learned it and there's even an Okinawan folk dance called Jigen-ryu Bo-Odori, which is supposed to be derived from Satsuma military drill. So there is in fact a Jigen-ryu/karate connection of some kind.
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Originally Posted by Ikantski
Originally Posted by eyebeams
I like their way to do the kiai, but really, if they do that in training all the time,
I'd get crazy...