Doing a shootfighting course tomorrow.

**deus ex machina** · Posted On: 5/26/2003 7:35pm

Shootfighting is MMA except for no striking on the ground.

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danny

"All this talk about 'newbies' is making me a little nervous. You guys don't have any sort of secret hazing initiation involving wooden paddles and me screaming 'Thank you sir, may I have another?!' do you?"

**deus ex machina** · Posted On: 5/26/2003 7:36pm

In a nutshell.

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danny

"All this talk about 'newbies' is making me a little nervous. You guys don't have any sort of secret hazing initiation involving wooden paddles and me screaming 'Thank you sir, may I have another?!' do you?"

**MMA_Phil** · Posted On: 5/26/2003 8:04pm

Yes, shootfighting is MMA.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 5/26/2003 8:25pm

Shootfighting is MMA

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**FingerorMoon?** · Posted On: 5/26/2003 8:32pm

Cool, thanks guys.

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**Boyd** · Posted On: 5/26/2003 11:57pm

I was gonna make a separate thread about this, but what the hell? We're already on the subject.

What do you guys think about bonafide "mixed" martial arts, such as shootfighting, in comparison to the ol' Muay Thai/BJJ combo? It seems like you almost never hear of people taking these "complete" stlyes, even though it sounds a lot more efficient to mix your striking and grappling from the get-go.

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**DJeter1234** · Posted On: 5/27/2003 12:08am

kinda on the same not, does anyone go to a BJJ school that's JUST grappling? or that just covers standup in drills, not sparring at all? Seems like these days everyone is crosstraining. My bro's friend does TKD and even his master is taking BJJ (he's a whitebelt) and teachign them grappling once a week.

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**deus ex machina** · Posted On: 5/27/2003 12:08am

MMA has evolved into it's own style. It is a sport now, like any other, with a certain formula for success. You don't necessarily have to take MMA to be good at it, but it's usually more efficient to train MMA as opposed to training BJJ and MT. Note, we're talking MMA as a style. One example would be ground and pound. In MMA it's a crucial skill you must have to succeed. It's not really taught in BJJ and/or MT, so you'd have to figure it out for yourself the methodology of ground and pound.

EDIT: Whereas in MMA, it's already been analyzed and broken down in teachable parts. Kind of like the difference between the guard in judo and BJJ. In judo, it's there, and you know it's there, and you know "generally" what to do. In BJJ, they take it to a whole nother level.

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danny

"All this talk about 'newbies' is making me a little nervous. You guys don't have any sort of secret hazing initiation involving wooden paddles and me screaming 'Thank you sir, may I have another?!' do you?"

Edited by - deus ex machina on May 27 2003 03:52:21

**J-kid** · Posted On: 5/27/2003 3:05am

Have fun train hard.

**MMA_Phil** · Posted On: 5/28/2003 5:36pm

It's not enough to train things seperately, you have to practice putting it all together. What I like about Shootfighting/Vale Tudo is that they aren't really styles; you can train however and whatever you like as to meet the rules of the competitions. That is to say you could train TKD, for Vale Tudo.