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    royce gracie vs kazushi sakuraba
    i think thats a major bjj vs catch

    it was done in pride
    kazushi defeated many bjj martial artist and he fought royce to avenge his wrestling stable mates .
    royce in the other hand like some of his brothers that have been defeating many shoot wrestlers and professional wrestlers in japan also wants to avenge his brothers that have been defeated by sakuraba

    the first match sakuraba won 1 May 2000 because his one of his brother threw in the towel
    and on the second match in 2 Jun 2007

    but before sakurabas defeat in jun 2 2007 he defeated many BJJ black belts
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    Marcus Silveira
    Vitor Belfort
    Royler Gracie
    Renzo Gracie
    Ryan Gracie
    Antonio Schembri -he loss to schembri 16 Mar 2003 but defeated him 20 Jun 2004

    after defeating 4 gracies he was called th "gracie hunter"
    he even defeated rampage jackson

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    he loss to Ricardo Arona a bjj black belt because of a corner stoppage
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    he also loss to Antonio Rogerio Nogueira(BJJ black belt) by a unanimus decision and he was defeated by wanderlei 2 times first by kneeing him in the grown next is a KO(punches) and also got defeated by an another bjj black belt Antonio Schembri by TKO(knee)

    i think that all of the bjj black belts that defeated him won by strikes or Unanimus decision and not BY Submission(correct me if im wrong)

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    about catch can and judo i think

    ad santel a judo olympian who practiced catch wrestling and encorporeated its moves in judo defeated Every kodokan black belt that was sent by the kodokan and only one kodokan judo black belt defeated him but that guys sucess over him did not happen again

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    Three and a half years for that **** post?

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    Yes but it had a Sepia photo of Sak, thats gotta be worth something.

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    This Sak:
    http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images...play_image.jpg

    (just kidding, love Sak)

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    Most BJJ/Catch matches have been much more recent, but I consider Count Koma and Kimura to be catch wrestlers anyway. BJJ is really just catch without the takedowns, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICY View Post
    Most BJJ/Catch matches have been much more recent, but I consider Count Koma and Kimura to be catch wrestlers anyway.
    Well that's just dumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICY View Post
    BJJ is really just catch without the takedowns, IMO.
    Also just dumb. You must be trolling because you're not this dumb.

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    On the first point, they both did catch wrestling, and Kimura trained and participated in pro wrestling extensively, but only after his match with Helio. Koma, I consider a catch wrestler, because he was one, but that is obviously not where most of his technique came from. Mind you, I'm sure catch had some influence on him, considering it did on all of Judo, and he fought many matches against catch wrestlers.

    And of course my post was dumb, but it wasn't meant for you (actually, it was, but FOR ONCE YOU COULD HAVE PLAYED ALONG) and trolls, like frogs, are ruined by dissection, so thanks a lot.

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    Sorry, multitasking and apparently doing so poorly at the moment. You're a founder get our post deleted.

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    I like how you think I have more pull around here than you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    Three and a half years for that **** post?
    hey dont blame me i just got that from a web site


    so :wtfgif9fr

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