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  1. PointyShinyBurn is offline
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    Gnarly King of Half-Guard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    Wait a minute, Upa said no wrestler in MMA, I simply stated there were two.
    I know, I'm just trying to aggravate 9chambers. I feel that the more drive he feels to prove his theories the higher the likelihood I'll someday get to see a video of him pulling mount in an MMA match.
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     Style: Muay Thai , BJJ

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    The closest active purist would probably be Royce. Although we saw him doing some punching and kicking in training I wouldn't really say he is actively crosstraining in kickboxing or wrestling takedowns
    Supposedly crosstraining muay thai. He was even wearing a MT shirt in one of the pre-fight interviews.
  3. Omega Supreme is offline

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     Style: Chinese Boxing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolinz
    Supposedly crosstraining muay thai. He was even wearing a MT shirt in one of the pre-fight interviews.
    Fairtex.
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     Style: Muay Thai , BJJ

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    Fairtex.
    Atleast you were gentle.
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    Is this another thread where 9c goes off about how his self training could pownzer everone in bjj, then whines?

    Dude, 9, it's getting old. You ass-ram so much personal bullshit into every thread that it completely statics up the thread.

    If you aren't yet ready to "get around" to MMA, why don't you enter a grappling comp and post shots of your medal? There's plenty of ameteur wrestling you could enter. Go take ONE JUDO LESSON, buy a 40 dollar judogi, and win a judo comp? Tons of ways you could validate your backyard grapplin' in an open forum.

    if you say "well, I can't beat specialists at their own range" then youi're basically saying "I was full of **** a moment ago when I said I knew more BJJ 'moves' then the bjjers".
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    Mark Coleman and Dan Severn.
    Actually, Severn was also a judo blackbelt before he entered the UFC, and Coleman trained with a submission guy before his MMA debut (there's footage of him sparring with subs with Brandon Lee Hinkle on The Sparring Chronicles documentary.)
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     Style: BJJ/Judo/HapKiDo

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    Training submissions with Brandon Hinkle is like asking a parapelegic to teach you to run a marathon.

    Oh, and 9Chambers is full of **** as always.
    Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
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    Let me see if I can help.
    BJJ has never dominated: Skateboarding.

    Well, I guess that's accurate.
    :google:

    Number of bottles of beer downed by me and my girlfriend within a half hour while playing the Channel 7 "how many times will they say 'snow' game" during the "Blizzard of '06": 3.5 each.
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     Style: Chinese Boxing

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    Actually, Severn was also a judo blackbelt before he entered the UFC, and Coleman trained with a submission guy before his MMA debut (there's footage of him sparring with subs with Brandon Lee Hinkle on The Sparring Chronicles documentary.)
    He has a Judo and SAMBO blackbelt so he can compete in those divisions. That is all. He told me himself during a seminar so there....:new_cussi :headbang:
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    I'm jumping right in after reading just the first page of this thread, so this point may have already been made.

    Aren't these wrestling/BJJ stats more to do with the fact that wrestling training and regular competition is offered at high schools across the US, whereas BJJ instruction is expensive and harder to find outside sizeable cities?

    Not wanting to sound like a BJJ nutrider, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that a huge number of professional fighters had been on school and/or college wrestling teams. That's not the same as saying that wrestling is more important or useful for MMA than BJJ. It's just saying that (whilst undoubtedly useful) the wrestling was much more available to young atheletes all over the country.
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