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  1. Jaric is offline

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    Club Review: Bob Carvers Thai Boxing

    Okay so here is the first of a few reviews of some martial art schools in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. I have been to a few over the last few weeks to find a school that like and is worth training at.

    Okay so the first school that I went to is called Bob Carvers Thai Boxing Academy.

    http://thaiboxing-ca.com/

    Its only one of three schools in the area that teaches MT, and it is not a MMA school. They have one class a week of FMA, and two classes a week of CSW (hybrid of wrestlting/MMA/Shooto). They have classes 4 days a week of MT and a few more days of free training time. The school itself isnít too large, but they have ring in addition to the mat area so im happy. I went to watch a class and it seemed very cool. I asked if I could try a sample class, and it costs $20 for a class, but you also get about 30min of private time with a teacher to show you the basic stances/kicks/punches.

    Okay so the class format is pretty simple. It always starts with the following warm up: 2 rounds of jumping rope, 1 round shadowbox, 1 round MT shadow box, and in between all the rounds crunches. After that the class is pretty much split down the middle. Half of the class is boxing drills; the other half is MT drills. All the drills are done by the round clock, so you do one round then switch and hold pads for the other person.

    To me (a newb at all this striking nonsense) the drills look realistic and no one in the class is slacking off or going light (like my old WC school). People at this school are here to learn, and I like that. We were learning how to slip jabs, and the teacher made sure that we were (lightly) hitting the person if he didnít move enough. Well taught class overall with a cpl of good teachers. I think sparring only starts at least six months into trainingÖwhich to me sounds realistic. Also they have three different levels of classes, and you have to pass a test to be allowed into the next level. But I was told you donít have to take the test if you donít want to, and it doesnít cost anything. I think itís just so you have a basic grasp of what youíre doing before you go to the next level. I also saw a lot of the advanced people in the basic class. My only gripe with the class is when you partner up and the beginning of the class, the advanced people tend to stick together. This means its hard for new guys to get a good partner. A small gripe but a gripe nonetheless.


    The cost is around $100 a month for just the MT. I got a shirt, shorts and training gloves for $100. Contracts are for a year, and I pay per month. I signed up for a year and I hope to learn a lot.


    Okay that just about covers it. Next up a Sambo school.
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     Style: MT (no, not "empty")

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    My thoughts
    -6 months before sparring is too long. I'm going to assume this is incorrect.
    -Contracts suck. I understand why schools need/use them but they still suck.
    -I would call the "level" thing McDojo except youre not be charged any money. MT doesnt have belt grades or katas; if you have a decent grasp of techniques the instructor can see it during training. Testing only makes sense if it for some kind of certification such as "Assistant Instructor". I suppose it could also be something the org that school belongs to does.
    -Do they have any people who fight competitively on a regular basis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daigoro
    -I would call the "level" thing McDojo except youre not be charged any money. MT doesnt have belt grades or katas; if you have a decent grasp of techniques the instructor can see it during training. Testing only makes sense if it for some kind of certification such as "Assistant Instructor". I suppose it could also be something the org that school belongs to does.
    I think the idea is to have a more regulated divison between people there for the workout, hobbyists who want to spar lightly and fighters who want to mess each other up a little.
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    6/13/2006 10:17am


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    Okay yes they have ppl that compete on a reg. basis. Two ppl fought and won last week at some fight in Quebec. I think the different levels are just to separate who knows what and what level people want to go at.

    Also how long do you think ppl need before they spar? Im talking about a newb right off the street now...from 0-sparring how long would you wait?
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    Six months is way too long. I was sparring regularly and lightly after about a month or so while turning up the intensity and length every week. Pad work and conditioning is great, but it's sparring that really reinforces the lessons. I find this is even more true in MT than it is in a lot of other martial arts because there is just so much in MT that you need to experience first hand eg. keeping your elbows in when you punch, checking with your shins so you don't snap them in half..

    Also about advanced members tending to pair up; you'll usually get that a lot no matter what martial art you're doing. As an advanced fighter/competitor you usually need someone around your skill level to match your pace and keep the intensity up. There's very little for them to gain by training with noobs, so to speak. Sure its nice when they take time out to help noobs and hold pads and give pointers etc, but a lot of the time this can very much seem like slacking off or taking it easy during training.
    Rad ki was made up by adolescents. I do not know who created trad ki but it was not made by adolescents. your an ass dude, Im not being a little bitch you are, your past the level of a bitch. Your beyond Bitch! If im easting my time with ki and psi, then your wasting time to prove frauds, and all **** like that! -theoutsider

    Kick boxing is ok, but don't expect do beat a man like Rickson Gracie with that. You need a real martial art. You need Xing Yi Quan. -Emptyflower

    The splits, how ever, have a few martial uses. Doing the splits for me, can put my fists in testical strike range.

    dont ignore the Art for the Martial or else your just kick boxing

    Yes i am serious, there are kicks that can block punches. we have them in Moo duk kwan.
    I want to learn how to use them in case my arm gets broken in a fight.
    what would you have me do? if my arm gets broke, not block punches? -sempi-stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaric
    Okay yes they have ppl that compete on a reg. basis. Two ppl fought and won last week at some fight in Quebec. I think the different levels are just to separate who knows what and what level people want to go at.

    Also how long do you think ppl need before they spar? Im talking about a newb right off the street now...from 0-sparring how long would you wait?
    You can probably have newbs sparring for a single 3min round (once a week) after 2-3 months (assuming they attend at least 2 classes a week). I think i started sparring before my 3rd month, and while it was ugly it gave me and the instructors an idea of my strengths/weaknesses/areas for improvement. With all the protective equipment and a instructor watching/controlling the fight, it should be a relatively non-damaging experience.
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     Style: BJJ & MT

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    The school sounds fine. People wil try to pick apart fucking anything on this site. Six months to sparring for a complete martial arts newbie is not a big deal.
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     Style: EX WC NOOB to MT/BJJ

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    Thanks Jaric for the review...

    I was going to go see Bob CArver's Mt this week, and now i have an insight on what to expect.

    I went and looked at a MT class at Ronin...How would you compare the two?


    Thanks

    we will have to meet up for MT sparring..........and leave the WC behind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meager
    The school sounds fine. People wil try to pick apart fucking anything on this site. Six months to sparring for a complete martial arts newbie is not a big deal.
    Irony FTW!
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    6/13/2006 1:31pm


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    At what times are the begginer MT classe's. the Schedule on the Web site is two years old

    Is it still at 5:30pm - 6:30pm and alternate days 6:30pm - 7:30pm??
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