View Poll Results: How long does it take to be proficient in MA?

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    Time to proficiency

    Everytime MMA comes up with TMA (especially CMAs) eventually someone will play the "Many years to be proficient" card. :jerkit2yf

    Why is this myth so prevelant? I know stupid question.

    Granted the longer you do ANY activity the better you should be at it but how long does it that to reach proficiency? And why does noone ever say it takes years to be proficient in other things like basketball, Football, etc. Hell being a fighter pilot is much more complex than unarmed MA but it doesn't require years upon years to be proficient at it.
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    1 to 2 years.
    You can use alot of the stuff you know, you have things you can make work consistantly against people of varying skill levels. Now you need experience eg. Competitionss etc.
    Last edited by ojgsxr6; 6/10/2006 5:32pm at .

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    I think you should see a lot of improvement in 6 months, i'd say "proficient" around 1yr if one trains hard. Obvious the ones that come in once aweek or the ones that half ass it will take longer.
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    Well what's proficient?

    Personally, if we're talking about starting from zero MA experience, I think it takes about a year of serious dedication to condition your body and learn enough proper technique if the person is truly devoted to it. Then again not all folks are the same, some could take a lot longer, especially if they go about training like a ***** (like I do). Then again I wouldn't think that's enough time to be compotent teacher, but I think the two are fairly unrelated anyway.

    Keeping in with the site's doctorine I think it's more that no set ammount of time gaurantees the dude knows what the **** he's doing.

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    There are a lot of factors to consider. How hard a student is training is probably the critical one. If they sweat, practice at home a lot, etc. They will obviously become more skilled than their fellows that don't.

    Also, to become proficient in a MA for the MA's sake would take much longer (IMHO) than if you were just training a MA for self-defense/fighting. For example, I really enjoy my MA but I'm really just a beginner in the big picture of learning all the subtle differences that make it unique. On the other hand I also really enjoy mixing it up and being able to punch/kick someone really hard if I had too, stuff that I trained hard to develop early on in my training.

    Now that I can punch/kick well enough to be considered proficient, I still think that I'm not proficient at my ability to do karate, I'm better than I was but I still feel uncomfortable when I'm put in a position to teach a newer student.

    So 1-2 years to get in shape and used to punching/kicking/rolling. A whole lot more if you want to learn all the other stuff.

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    Well what's proficient?
    Being able to use what you learn with success on a consistent basis.

    Personally, if we're talking about starting from zero MA experience, I think it takes about a year of serious dedication to condition your body and learn enough proper technique if the person is truly devoted to it. Then again not all folks are the same, some could take a lot longer, especially if they go about training like a ***** (like I do). Then again I wouldn't think that's enough time to be compotent teacher, but I think the two are fairly unrelated anyway.
    It is about how you train and effective training yeilds effective results. If you train like a ***** then 20yrs isn't enough.

    There are a lot of factors to consider. How hard a student is training is probably the critical one. If they sweat, practice at home a lot, etc. They will obviously become more skilled than their fellows that don't.
    Obviously but its not just how HARD but more HOW. If you train wrong it doesn't matter how hard you do it.

    What I mean by this is that the reason BJJ, JUDO, MT, WRESTLING, KK, etc develop good fighters in a shorter amount of time is because their training methdology allows for constant real feedback. You start applying what you learn right from the start.

    Also, to become proficient in a MA for the MA's sake would take much longer (IMHO) than if you were just training a MA for self-defense/fighting.
    WHAT? MA is about FIGHTING. Thats its only requirement. How the fighting is done falls into Self Defense and or Killing or suduing an opponent.

    For example, I really enjoy my MA but I'm really just a beginner in the big picture of learning all the subtle differences that make it unique
    Uhm OK. If what makes it unique is so subtle what good is it?

    Now that I can punch/kick well enough to be considered proficient, I still think that I'm not proficient at my ability to do karate,
    You realize that doesn't make much sense.

    If you are profienct at punching and kicking with the techniques of your chosen Karate style you ARE doing Karate.

    A whole lot more if you want to learn all the other stuff.
    What is this other STUFF that requires much more time?
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    I read a book called Chinaboy. This Chinese kid was getting beat up alot. An old blackman told him to go to the YMCA to learn how to box. He did. It took many months and it could've even a year before he was beating up the kids who picked on him.

    Oh and you idiots better not think he was learning Chinese boxing at the freakin YMCA.

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    Now that I can punch/kick well enough to be considered proficient, I still think that I'm not proficient at my ability to do karate,
    That was the funniest thing I've read in atleast the last 2 minutes.

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    I had a Tomiki practioner tell me Asia that he learned a hell of a lot more than he did at the Aikido(hombu) organization you were in before. Styles that test their skills seem to progress the fastest and most efficient.

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