We had an incident last night @ practice

**kipdynamite** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 4:18pm

Little here a little there. 8 months worth M-T-Th in Austin, Tx circa 1991. A little with a guy I worked EMS with he is now an instructor under Gracie offshoot. The Austin Tx was a branch Machado brothers. I trained in Judo for two years in Tulsa with a now defunct club instructors name was Hardesty. And I wrestled from 7th grade to 12th grade with exception of 11th grade. And I assitant coach my boys youth team (annoying dad) and I workout with the wrestlers at a college near my home. And I have attended a couple of BJJ seminars but they were pretty remedial.

**tiktok** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 4:30pm

I think you handled it perfectly. Nothing dispels illusions better than a swift ass-kicking. The fact that you didn't respond more forcefully I think speaks well of you...I've known guys who would have reacted by breaking an arm or something similar. (i.e, jerks)

**Doctor X** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 11:21pm

The fool escalated.

He broke "the rules"

He threatened you with injury.

He had no basis to complain.

There are those who thing they are t3h d34dly when they "win" by breaking agreed upon rules. These are never good people to train with. Best to either get a person to "wise up" or leave.

--J.D.

P.S. BWA!HA!HA!HA!HA! to the "move spine" and "pull a knife" as well!

**Meager** · Posted On: 6/08/2006 1:47am

Originally Posted by kipdynamite

Well the guy kept putting both legs across my chest and head and I tried to explain to him the logic of why you should place one foot against the ribs with the leg bent.

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Please elaborate.

**VikingPower** · Posted On: 6/08/2006 2:42am

Originally Posted by Meager

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Please elaborate.

It's a Judo thing. I'm not sure why they do it myself, never thought to ask my sempai about it when we're training Judo newaza.

Any of the experienced Judoka Bullies wanna tell us?

**Hurt** · Posted On: 6/08/2006 4:33am

Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu

Any of the experienced Judoka Bullies wanna tell us?

Inexperieced crappler here, but I do it off of the knee ride position. You butter up the guy on bottom and when he covers up you the hook the arm and swing the leg over. Ideally I suppose I would want both legs over, but you still get more than enough leverage.

The original poster said he uses it to set up triangle chokes in his first post.

Any fearsome BBJ folks who can say if or why it's a fatal mistake?

**FictionPimp** · Posted On: 6/08/2006 9:42am

I was told you place the leg there to keep them from rolling twoards you. However, I always put both legs over and not once have I had a guy escape by rolling twords me. Of course armbars arn't my bread and butter. I'm more of a choke man myself.

**the legslinger** · Posted On: 6/08/2006 9:49am

Were you being a jerk? ...no fucking way, THAT guy was being a prick! you just made your point and shut the kid up...well done

KhorneliusPraxx · Posted On: 6/08/2006 10:22am

Originally Posted by kipdynamite

Little here a little there. 8 months worth M-T-Th in Austin, Tx circa 1991. A little with a guy I worked EMS with he is now an instructor under Gracie offshoot. The Austin Tx was a branch Machado brothers.

You trained in BJJ in the U.S. before UFC #1?!

***jnp*** · Posted On: 6/08/2006 11:09am

Originally Posted by kipdynamite

The Austin Tx was a branch Machado brothers.

If you don't mind me asking, who taught Machado BJJ in Austin in '91? Talk about missed opportunities on my part.

Also, not to be a dick, but in my experience, it's never a good idea to willingly put yourself in a vulnerable position like the receiving end of an armbar with a newb with whom you have no history. I've run into more than a few beginners who were perfectly reasonable off the mat, but then turned into raging spazzes when they stepped out onto it.