Judo Report.

**roly** · Posted On: 6/06/2006 7:53pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

I'd like to ammend this with the obligatory "judo newaza still sucks"

Thank you.

bjj = basically just judo :P

"sucks" may be a bit strong of a word, but i think it leaves a little too much room for improvement

**MONGO** · Posted On: 6/06/2006 8:25pm

There is a guy here in Japan that is a pure Judoka and he has entered in BJJ comps and won. He has obviously worked on his newaza and it is much better than the average in Judo but it can be done.

I know its not evidence of Judo's ability on the ground but it shows that if you work hard on it, you can get to a very high level. I guess I am just hoping that other Judoka will try to excell on the ground because I think that sometimes the refs stand people up so quick because they suck on the ground.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 6/06/2006 9:09pm

I don't actually care and I am unclear why a blatant troll comment merits serious response.
I figure judo ground proficiency is probably a little higher and a little more consistent than the standing proficiency of most bjj guys.
Not that that says much.

**MONGO** · Posted On: 6/06/2006 10:06pm

I was just chiming in with a Rainman-esque comment.

**UltimateGaijin** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 4:15am

Originally Posted by MONGO

There is a guy here in Japan that is a pure Judoka and he has entered in BJJ comps and won. He has obviously worked on his newaza and it is much better than the average in Judo but it can be done.

I know its not evidence of Judo's ability on the ground but it shows that if you work hard on it, you can get to a very high level. I guess I am just hoping that other Judoka will try to excell on the ground because I think that sometimes the refs stand people up so quick because they suck on the ground.

they will if groundwork becomes more important in the olympics. Otherwise they'll stick with being great throwers

**Virus** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 7:42am

The coach said that 8% of wins in modern judo were due to ground submission, but that it's likely to change. Any truth to this?

**War Wizard** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 11:14am

Originally Posted by Virus

The coach said that 8% of wins in modern judo were due to ground submission, but that it's likely to change. Any truth to this?

That sounds about right. I always watch the Olympic Judo matches and it is pretty rare for them to go to the ground. In my class randori sessions, it's more like 60/40 throws/groundwork.

**Hatsumauru** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 12:41pm

My Judo club is about 40% Throws/ 60% ground. Then again my Judo instructor is 100% blind so...yeah.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 12:48pm

Originally Posted by FictionPimp

1) Uchi Mata
2) Harai Goshi
3) Tani Otoshi

Those 3 throws make my bjj life so much easier.

O hell yes, especially Tani. No one sees it coming.

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 6/07/2006 1:20pm

My judo club has perhaps 20% newaza with emphasis on transitioning from a throw (ippon or not) into newaza, and the rest is just pure throwing. And on Saturdays it's kata. Since I only go two or three times a week (and I never miss newaza day) - it's pretty much 40% to 50% newaza for me...

... and I haaaate when they tell me to turn facing down everytime single time I'm defending from a sub or pin. Besides that little detail, I like the place.