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  1. Killing Moon is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    I'd think the sweep is much more guaranteed with the additional use of the hand than just trying to kick their leg out from under them.
    Yes and no.

    The use of your hand can help but only if their center of gravity if off to begin with. If not, it won't make much of a difference and if not placed correctly, will also telegraph your movement before it even gets completed.

    Your hip torque doesn't necessarily need your hand or arm's lead in order to be sufficient. It can help to an extent, but allows maybe about 5-10% more force in your movement. I used to train with my legs with my hands bound, wrapped somehow, behind my back or even chambered.

    Simply put, it has to be in one motion, not TWO. If you think of it in more than one step, you'll be short changing yourself and depleting your own power. Your enemy will just pull their leg away and look at you stupidly if that happens.

    BTW: I'm looking at your fight videos as we speak.
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    Hey Killing moon,
    looking forward to seeing the videos if you get them posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deer-boxer
    Hey Killing moon,
    looking forward to seeing the videos if you get them posted.
    Yesh, yesh, I'm workin' on it, I'm workin' on it *shakes head in shame*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    oh, so not Tara as in Mrs. Arbiter...
    diff't tara actually, another one of our fighters.
    bsk-kickboxing: home of the fighting taras. ;p

    we are working on getting some more fight clips up on the site, maybe get some of mrs arbiters last fight on there. she's thinking she wants to fight again this summer if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbiter
    diff't tara actually, another one of our fighters.
    bsk-kickboxing: home of the fighting taras. ;p

    we are working on getting some more fight clips up on the site, maybe get some of mrs arbiters last fight on there. she's thinking she wants to fight again this summer if possible.
    maybe I'll be down to 125 by then ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    I'd think the sweep is much more guaranteed with the additional use of the hand than just trying to kick their leg out from under them.
    we do this sweep too. there are several variations on it. usually shuffle in to split their center, come across w/ the arm/hand, thumb down while sweeping thru / the lead leg. or can just step in deep and trip back over the leg. basic idea is to isolate their body and movement so its hard for them to adjust, then push/pull/split, send the upper body one way and lower body the other, sort of spun about a central horizonal axis.
    saw ths pulled off a couple times nicely in sparring at the gym last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    maybe I'll be down to 125 by then ;)
    now that would be a hell of an enteraining fight :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbiter
    now that would be a hell of an enteraining fight :-)
    I think it'd be fun and it'd be an excuse to come back to Massachussets. Plus I need to restore muay thai's honor and stuff =P
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    Hey Kidspatula,

    We do that sweep a lot where I train, and we have a drill that makes it a little easier to practice. And yeah, that ****'s not easy on anybody resisting, so using the lead hand to unbalance them really helps and truly, it's more like the shoulder, almost like you step into them and then throw the lead arm straight out and just past them so that your whole arm get's used to trip them. If you want a better description of the drill (which may already be obvious to you, I don't know.) feel free email me. onesearch@gmail.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP
    If you want a better description of the drill (which may already be obvious to you, I don't know.) feel free email me. onesearch@gmail.com.
    If it's not too much trouble, and since this thread is about real kung fu, would you mind posting the drill here?
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