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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidspatula
    My style of muay thai involves a lot of jumping around these days. Unfortunately, Kat's style involves the deadly mortal kombat sweep.
    video proof http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/sho...o/1968/cat/506
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin
    General advice: remember it isn't so important what you call your technique. I think if you spend too much time thinking in terms of one system (i.e. caring if something is specifically "kung fu" or not) or another you're just wasting mental energy.
    techniques should have names that are easily identifiable though, so people can exchange ideas without always getting on the mat. Though, maybe they should...
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    Sup dude.

    Hey, does your style have any relation to Lung Ying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    The main problem with "Kung Fu" is its attraction to exotic, low-no percentage techniques and ineffecient movement under the assumption that if you train in them long enough (usually through forms or compliant partner drills), you'll be able to pull them off in a real fight.

    But unfortunately, when they're tested in non-stop, full contact sparring, they often resemble little more than crappy kickboxing. This is because there are only so many ways one can strike another person, and almost every single one of them is used in kickboxing or other combat sports.

    So what does "real" kung fu look like? Watch Cung Le. If you're not training to strike like he does, you're probably just performing a choreographed, sinophilistic, masturbatory exercise.
    Don't watch Cung Le! Watch Marvin Perry! Argh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehDeadlyDimMak
    Don't watch Cung Le! Watch Marvin Perry! Argh!
    are there videos of his fights online? If so I'd love to see some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meng_mao

    As for real kung fu, I believe in it, but I have yet to see it happen in the UFC. What I'm looking for is a kung fu based low percentage move, ala flying knee or spinning backfist, but from a kung fu style. Maybe a close range stomping elbow to the body?
    Isn't Luke Cummo a Kung - Fu guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoJu - Joe
    Isn't Luke Cummo a Kung - Fu guy?
    Nope. He's Muay Thai and BJJ with chi magic tacked on. His nutrition is good from what I saw on the show but I think we all know what's responsible for his abilities (hint: not facing his bed north at night).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    The main problem with "Kung Fu" is its attraction to exotic, low-no percentage techniques and ineffecient movement under the assumption that if you train in them long enough (usually through forms or compliant partner drills), you'll be able to pull them off in a real fight.

    But unfortunately, when they're tested in non-stop, full contact sparring, they often resemble little more than crappy kickboxing. This is because there are only so many ways one can strike another person, and almost every single one of them is used in kickboxing or other combat sports.

    So what does "real" kung fu look like? Watch Cung Le. If you're not training to strike like he does, you're probably just performing a choreographed, sinophilistic, masturbatory exercise.
    Can't argue with that very much.

    Considering that the core basis to CMAs is and was arranged around "maximum efficiency, minimum effort", I take that mindset very seriously. Essentially, utilize whatever works to defeat your enemy. In that, I concentrate heavily on physical conditioning for various purposes.

    Fanciful mess and over elaborate movements never get the job done. The way I see it, if I had to use things in order to ensure my last days here, what would they be?

    Maximum efficiency, minimum effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    Sup dude.

    Hey, does your style have any relation to Lung Ying?
    Not that I'm aware of.

    In fact, I've come to discover that my Fist is pretty damn rare. Either that, or my Sifu was a complete psychopath to conjure this up. Whatever the origins, it works, that much is for sure.

    My particular form of Dragon concentrates heavily on leg fighting and Chin Na though. I've witnessed other forms of Dragon, but either they've seemed highly impractical or just didn't make any real sense to begin with. I tend to keep my mouth shut on the matter most of the time for the sake of diplomacy though.

    Guess maybe my patience is wearing very thin now, I dunno.


    BTW: I was one of the teachers at the MAP Meet NYC Seminar. So I know a flood of questions and ball-breaks should be coming my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killing Moon
    Maximum efficiency, minimum effort.
    Something tells me this was not a guiding principle of CMA until Judo came up with it first.

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