Originally Posted by Arbiter
I agree 100%.
Thank you saved me from typing. This is the new phenomena in CMA. They point to tournaments to prove kung fu worked. Funny thing is histroically these things were NHB events, something many of us kung fu guys have talked about for years.
Originally Posted by Hurt
Yet, we denounce K-1, UFC and other NHB events.
Problem is we lived through others accomplishments.
The picture Beaton posted is cool but, the fighting pic is a kick. There is zero correlation between the two. That is just as bad as posting a pic of Diego Sanchez, in full lotus position meditating, then posting a pic of him winning Tuf 1 with a submission. One does not make the other.
Now, if Diego submits someone in the full lotus position, then we can debate.
Originally Posted by It is Fake??
JESUS F'N CHRIST!! How many times do I need to say this:
I never said his forms were the reason he won in FC fighting. Those pics were not posted to try and make that point. My point was that you can do the pajama dancing traditional Kung Fu AND train to fight for real. They are not mutually exclusive. People around here seem to think that if you train for real it automatically disqualifies you as a Kung Fu practitioner.
Obviously San Shou fighters don't use everything in the KF forms in their fighting. As a matter of fact very little of what is in the forms finds it's way into their fighting style, But EVERY move they do use is found in those forms.
Pretty much all the moves I use today, or at least things that look relatively similair can be found in karate, which I practiced for several years.
But I sure as **** am not using karate when I step in the ring.
It's not about how many or what moves you know, it's how you learn to put them together and apply them. Yes, we all know kung fu has a bajillion fucking moves and that everything anyone does ever can be found in the forms but it doesnt really validate kung fu because a fighting system is about more then techniques.
Actually that's not true.
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SHHHHHH cullion let him keep talking. We are learning his position.
That's AWESOME! He said "pre-madonnas" (isn't that Louise Ciccione?), that's even better than "per say", "ek setra" and "irregardless"...
Originally Posted by mrblackmagic
Ayup... Worse still, the athletic commision is usually confined by the state legislature and/or the state attorney general (few of whom are MMA competitors, heh). Often the commish is just trying to build the best rule-set he can within the constraints of state law (v. Texas Combative Sports rules).
Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity
I know.. Lu Hai Long tears up Thai fighters in the ring.
Originally Posted by Kidspatula
I keep reading how SanDa comes from Gung Fu- which system? White Eye Brow? N.Preying Mantis, ing hun? this whole idea that Sanda goes way back is another case of revisionism. Yes people fought on platforms in certain areas, but it probably looked like the Ng vs Chan clip in the Video section, not the dynamic splish splash of whatever works that we see in Modern San shou/SanDa. I like SanDa, and yeah, Cung le is a bad dude, but none of my friends are looking forward to him fighting a soup can- ****- he's a Champion, put him in with Matt Hughes.
well he IS brand new to this whole MMA thing. He may be a champ in Sanshou, but that doesn't mean he's deserving of a title shot with hughes right off the bat.
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