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    Strikes vs. Holds

    Has anyone tried to tabulate UFC1-59 data to see the main cause of wins?

    I'd think the main causes of wins could be put in 4 broad categories:

    holds
    strikes
    judging
    other

    Does anyone else have ideas for what type of categories?

    One could see if strikes% is larger than holds%, to see if grappling is more effective than striking in sport/entertainment, for example.

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    For sport entertainment you would have to tabulate the victories in pro wrestling.
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    Styles:
    http://www.sherdog.com/stats/upr_styles_alltime.asp
    http://www.sherdog.com/stats/upr_fighter_alltime.asp
    http://www.sherdog.com/stats/stylewinrecords_ratio.asp

    Fight endings:
    http://www.sherdog.com/stats/fightendings_ratio.asp
    Overall Finishing Method Statistics
    Percentage Submission = 46.27
    Percentage KO/TKO = 28.25
    Percentage Decision = 18.13
    Other (Drawn, NCs, or Unknown) = 7.35

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    Wow, submissions by far take the biggest chunk of the pie. BJJ wins again.

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    Thanks, cool link.

    I specifically said UFC, not overall.

    I found this for UFC

    http://www.sherdog.com/stats/matchstats_ufc.asp

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    Finishing Method Statistics
    Total Matches = 571
    Percentage Submission = 34.50
    Percentage KO/TKO = 39.40
    Percentage Decision = 23.64
    Other (Drawn, NCs, or Unknown) = 2.45
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    Looks like submission does not win the most in UFC.


    An interesting stat is the best/worst records stats. We find BJJ in the best style records list (http://www.sherdog.com/stats/stylewinrecords_ratio.asp), but Gracie Jiujitsu in the worst style records list (http://www.sherdog.com/stats/stylelo...rds_ratio.asp).

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    Am I the only one who noticed that BJJ is actually lowest in the style records wins ratio?

    Edit:Forget what I said.There's actually 2 sections for BJJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzs
    Looks like submission does not win the most in UFC.
    It's safe to say that over 4% KOs and TKOs were due to strikes on the ground, which require grappling.

    Besides, tai chi wins 0% of the time so I don't see what point you're trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hapkido_keith
    Wow, submissions by far take the biggest chunk of the pie. BJJ wins again.
    All types of submissions are counted in those stats, including submission by strikes. They donīt teach that in BJJ, do they? :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSamurai
    All types of submissions are counted in those stats, including submission by strikes. They donīt teach that in BJJ, do they? :rolleyes:
    GnP from mount has been in BJJ since before the Gracies in Action fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueSamurai
    All types of submissions are counted in those stats, including submission by strikes. They donīt teach that in BJJ, do they? :rolleyes:
    My particular school focuses on sport and doesn't teach strikes, but most BJJ schools cover this. BJJ does what I want it to for me; I'm not particularly worried about getting my ass kicked on t3h str34t.











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