"MMA" suckfest

**Mjelva** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 4:42am

http://martialartsplanet.com/forums/...45&postcount=6

I'm not sure how they can call this MMA, seeing as it's the worst fighting I've ever laid my eyes on.
I really don't know what to say here, guys, and I'm not often at a loss for words. I guess this is the real _ing _un. Suffice to say, it fails to deliver.

**meng_mao** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 4:53am

Were these fights under pankration rules aka no head strikes?
How come I didn't see any punches to the head?

**Mjelva** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 5:04am

It didn't say, but I didn't see a single punch to the head either, so I guess so.
Google didn't turn up anything on this event.

**TheSparrow** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 5:11am

These are Alan Orr's guys. AFAIK, they compete in Amateur MMA with no head strikes.
Credit has to be given, as they do Wing Chun (of some form) and actually compete.

**Beaton Yu** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 6:43am

Originally Posted by TheSparrow

These are Alan Orr's guys. AFAIK, they compete in Amateur MMA with no head strikes.
Credit has to be given, as they do Wing Chun (of some form) and actually compete.

WTF is the point in a fight with no head shots? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of the body shot, but how the hell are you supposed to land one when they know that's all you're throwing?

That second "fight" was nothing but a beating.

**TheSparrow** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 7:13am

Originally Posted by Beaton Yu

WTF is the point in a fight with no head shots? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of the body shot, but how the hell are you supposed to land one when they know that's all you're throwing?

That second "fight" was nothing but a beating.

Can't say I disagree with you. Here's a cut from a thread here:
http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=41404

"Cool stuff Aaron,

I admire your guts for getting in there and mixing it up full contact like that, bravo... It must be hard though to not go for the head when fighting this way. I would assume that you have to train quite a bit to build this habit while competing.

James"

"we do a lot of body sparring anyway as it helps us to build good structure, conditioning, stickiness, body control etc...a lot of people chase the head, but not many can hit the body that well...and if you look at people like ricky hatton etc its clear that if you can hit the body, to hit the head is not hard...but if you head hunt, hurting the body is not always that easy....

also it helps to develop the ability to stop the takedown....when there are no headshots, people can rush in and take you down a lot easier as they dont have to worry about headshots, so to be able to stop this is a good skill to develop....

the main thing we train differently or increase coming upto the bout for me personally is the fitness training needed...until you compete its hard to understand the ATP and adrenaln dump you get and the amount of anaerobic/aerobic fitness you need....you need technique but hell you need the rest as well....

best

aaron"

**kyokushinkid** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 10:08am

Originally Posted by meng_mao

Were these fights under pankration rules aka no head strikes?
How come I didn't see any punches to the head?

Pancrase FC allows for head strikes but they have to be palm or open fist strikes.

**Weezly** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 12:42pm

Pancrase and pankration are totally unrelated, the names just sound similar. Check http://www.pankrationacademy.com/site_map.htm out for more info.

**meng_mao** · Posted On: 5/25/2006 2:42pm

Originally Posted by TheSparrow

also it helps to develop the ability to stop the takedown....when there are no headshots, people can rush in and take you down a lot easier as they dont have to worry about headshots, so to be able to stop this is a good skill to develop....

It seems that you could actually use the patented Omega head guard, where you lead with your head and dq your opponent by taking incoming strikes on your dome.