Steven Hayes ditches the BJK

**Virus** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 1:46am

I think the major crumbling will happen when Hatsumi dies. Hold onto your seat for that.

**DAYoung** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 1:59am

He won't die.

He knows these secrets: "To gain immortality simply kill the black ninja's outside of the shop in CH.4 exactly 100 times (the last time you need to run from 1 of them) then go to Murumasa and buy:

10 Life Elixers
5 Ninpo Elixers
5 Greater Life Elixers

Lastly upgrade your Lunar thing. Once you fight the Bone Dragon in CH.6, let him win 3 times and the 4th time you won't die (even when caught in his BAD BITE attack more than once)!"

**shinobi_jebus** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 2:06am

bjj wins agaen!

**P A Smith** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 12:07pm

A what?

**Muqatil** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 1:04pm

You missed this part which was what started the thread over there.

On 14 May 2006, during Hombu training, Soke had Steven K. Hayes' name placard taken off the Bujinkan rank board. There was no ceremony or fanfare, he just had Joji take it down while people were training. I was training in my usual corner there under the kamidana and by that first rank board when Joji did it. Joji showed it to me and said Soke told him to take it down. Soke came up and said that SKH is no longer recognized as a judan in the Bujinkan. He is doing his own martial art and not a part of the Bujinkan anymore. There were a number of us who witnessed this event. Soke said that the Bujinkan does not need to expand anymore. We have enough good 15 dan who are training faithfully in the Bujinkan. Now is the time to refine and pair down what we already have.

I am putting this on the open part of our BB so anyone can see this, per Soke's wishes.

Hayes didn't quit, he is being pushed out. I'm sure he will put a spin on it to suit his business needs.

***Plasma*** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 1:14pm

Originally Posted by Muqatil

You missed this part which was what started the thread over there.

On 14 May 2006, during Hombu training, Soke had Steven K. Hayes' name placard taken off the Bujinkan rank board. There was no ceremony or fanfare, he just had Joji take it down while people were training. I was training in my usual corner there under the kamidana and by that first rank board when Joji did it. Joji showed it to me and said Soke told him to take it down. Soke came up and said that SKH is no longer recognized as a judan in the Bujinkan. He is doing his own martial art and not a part of the Bujinkan anymore. There were a number of us who witnessed this event. Soke said that the Bujinkan does not need to expand anymore. We have enough good 15 dan who are training faithfully in the Bujinkan. Now is the time to refine and pair down what we already have.

I am putting this on the open part of our BB so anyone can see this, per Soke's wishes.

Hayes didn't quit, he is being pushed out. I'm sure he will put a spin on it to suit his business needs.

:shurg: Probably as Hayes is a good business man. However, the To Shin Do guys have been doing there own thing for years. So I doubt it will make much of a difference.

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**TheSparrow** · Posted On: 5/24/2006 1:33pm

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