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  1. Gezere is offline
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    Ah, well that sheds more light on things. I see Ken and Chuck are on the thread as well. Chuck is a great guy, a koryu bunny, but one with a good head on his shoulders.
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     Style: Short fat wimp style MMA

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    So the thread on Randi mean I got trolled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRDC
    In case anyone's wondering, jza is obviously "T'ai Chi" from this identical thread over at JREF:

    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=52005

    As you can tell, he's well aware of all the counterarguments that are being presented here and still stubbornly refuses to see reality.
    And I'm the "Freakshow" that started that thread.

    Hey TaiChi/jzs/statisticool/whatever-the-****-your-name-is...still think you "demolished" other people's points there? I can't figure out how you think that, unless you truly are delusional.

    So...explain this to me, since in about 60 pages (on both forums), you've been unable to: EXACTLY what is it about the "situation" that is more "realistic" in a "dojo", than in an MMA sport fight? EXACTLY how does it make for more realistic training in TMA? Don't give me the same old bullshit about "ring girls, speedos, crowds, PPV", etc. I want to know exacly how that affects the fight, and exactly why it is more realistic in a "dojo" than in an MMA event. Let's hear it. Be very specific.
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    Posted On:
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    Man, I've watched this thread from the beginning, and (attempted to) read every single of jzs' posts (I said "attempted" cuz I don't what the **** he is trying to say besides sport =/= fighting or some **** like that)...

    and I have to say that every single of those posts is like a fucking wormhole or point singularity in space and time, where everything gets fucked up, the laws of physics don't make sense anymore, and light and possibly logic get sucked in, never ever to return.
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    5/20/2006 10:00pm


     Style: Box, Kickbox, No-gi BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    Man, I've watched this thread from the beginning, and (attempted to) read every single of jzs' posts (I said "attempted" cuz I don't what the **** he is trying to say besides sport =/= fighting or some **** like that)... and I have to say that every single of those posts is like a fucking wormhole or point singularity in space and time, where everything gets fucked up, the laws of physics, don't make sense anymore, and light and possibly logic get sucked in, never ever to return.
    After looking at your avatar, the only parts of your post I got were "fucking", "hole", "gets fucked", and "sucked". I'll try reading it again...
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     Style: Box, Kickbox, No-gi BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzs
    I've heard about some RBSD train on pavement, as well as put objects under their mats to make it realistic uneven ground, as well as put objects on the mat like plastic bottles, newspaper, etc., to make it more realistic, as well as darken the room to test different light levels, as well as set up the training to defend against random attacks. All of this is much more valuable to real life than sport.
    "Ive heard about some..." Wow, that's a real convincing argument you have there.

    I'm sure SO MANY "dojos" (the word used in your webpage) do that. I'm sure it is extremely common in just about all karate/kung fu/akido/taichi classes. :rolleyes: And I'm sure no MMA fighter has ever worked out on anything other than a mat. :rolleyes:
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    Posted On:
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    WHY THE **** IS IT THAT PEOPLE SAYING THAT SPORTFIGHTING DOES NOT EQUAL REAL FIGHTING HAVE NEVER FOUGHT IN SPORTS OR FOR REAL?
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    Many old masters gained the title invincible so did others outside of TMA so, you are wrong.

    Advertising happened before MMA events. You need to read something other than Inside Kung Fu Magazine and Black Belt Magazine. Remember, there are many sources that state that Chinese Generals fought in tournaments to recieve their rank.


    Let us not forget the many Letai fights that existed.


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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatical
    WHY THE **** IS IT THAT PEOPLE SAYING THAT SPORTFIGHTING DOES NOT EQUAL REAL FIGHTING HAVE NEVER FOUGHT IN SPORTS OR FOR REAL?
    Hey, its icky. There is contact, pain, fear. And worst of all, it will demolish your thoughs of your own deadliness. (Not talking about you fanatical) Waah! I want my mommy......:boxing:
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    5/21/2006 9:30am


     Style: aikido, taijiquan

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    It is obvious that people who have trained in traditional martial arts have used their martial arts effectively in real life for quite a long time, and no appeal to a fad will ever change that fact. And also that RBSD situations are more relevant because they train someone on what they're likely to encounter in real life (and they don't "sell out" by entertainment, hawking nutritional supplements, etc., but that is another story!).

    It is funny how people get personal. Facing reality must touch a nerve? ;)
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