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    Quote Originally Posted by babo78
    Point taken. What would be better word to describe? hmm
    "not chambered" works pretty well.
    Last edited by Lu Tze; 5/16/2006 6:19pm at .

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    Dangit, this just makes me wanna find a Savate school near me even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babo78
    Savate is TKD with shoes!!!!

    Savaet gets you dudes! not chicks.

    On serious note, why does savate reminds of TKD? Besides fact that they're doing it live, punching, and hands up sometimes...

    Which is a load of ****. Our club has 50% female membership, and my beginners course is 80% chick class. Take that you sweaty grappler you.....:cat:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry_Spastic
    I'm no human movements expert and my knowledge of savate history is a bit sketchy, but aren't the "whipping" motions to allow more power to be generated with less muscular effort?
    If I remmeber correctly, "power" is somthing like F=MA.

    That is, massxacceleration.

    So, yes, fast whipping kicks allow for power generation with relatively less muscular contraction.

    A guy in the vid got KO'ed badly from a kick to the chin. That says something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babo78
    Nah, I'm not an idiot. And it looks similiar to TKD in my eyes due to speedy snap kicks rather than chambered kicks from MT. And thanks for keeping open eyes instead of immediately flaming because TKD is listed dumbass =p

    Edit: Savate kicks resembles alot more to TKD rather than MT kicks in my eyes. I didn't see hardly any chambering if at all. Note that I'm not stating TKD is good just mechanics look similiar.
    Oh don't go crying into your ice cream already. I always flame with love as the driving motivator...alot like a guy who beats his wife because he loves her.

    Anyway, yes the high snappy kicks are probably what makes you think of it. And as for why "chambered" kicks is a bad description for muay that is because "chamber" to most people (not sure about your definition) implies the raising of the knee to waist height or higher before unleashing the kick. These kinds of kicks are like the jabs of your legs when done properly. Muay Thai kicks as Lights O. said come right from where your foot is planted, and drive with the torquing of your body coupled with essentially dead weight of your leg. I suppose with the roundhouse kicks they still snap their leg a bit, but it's nowhere near the same as "chambering" like they do in any KMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lights Out
    If I remmeber correctly, "power" is somthing like F=MA.

    That is, massxacceleration.
    I really hope this bit doesn't resurrect that physicists waking nightmare of a thread about striking power...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KempoFist
    Because you're an idiot, and whenever you see a kick above the waist you think TKD?

    Crocop fights TKD!!11!!

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    there is no chambering in the MT kick...

    If you throw a MT kick 25 times non stop sooner or later your kick becomes almost straight from the downward to upward motion. Also your arm swing will have this wave like motion ( both of them ) one thrown down and back up to your head and another horizontal or diagonal left and right.

    Also if you threw the kick and miss the opponent, the kick should still follow through the target (because thats how the force of the kick is intended) and stop once you realized you missed. Or you can go traditional and do a 360 and end with a block, which seems stupid.

    And karate/tkd kicks.... All I know is that they are snappy and t3h suxors my boxers.

    The major problem I see with the karate/savate/tkd kick is theres no pushing after the kick has hit the target. Meaning I can just take the damn kick in my guard, and throw a straight punch down the pipe.

    With a thai kick's pushing properties, it stops thier momentum and pushes them back making it very difficult for them to counter.

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    http://www.fairtex.com/videos/videos.php?v_id=1
    Heres a thai kick.

    Now enough is enough about what kick is what.

    Savate is TKD plus boxing now?
    Last edited by elbowtko; 5/18/2006 3:37pm at .

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    Here is example of Savate roundkick in action.

    http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/sho...2/limit/recent

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    What weight class was the Savate guy featured in that vid? I would like to see a fight between him and Cung Le, K-1 rules. It would be interesting to watch.

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