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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGA JESUS-SAN
    I shoot an olympic recurve, buddy.

    And there's nothing wrong with compound bows, it just happens that a lot of compound shooters are fat.
    I shoot a Mongolian/Hungarian composite bow with a thumb-ring. There's nothing wrong with European bows. It just happens that they're inefficient and use a weird draw. :dink:

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    The three-finger draw to the face is superior for a number of reasons, and Western bows being longer makes them more stable and forgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGA JESUS-SAN
    The three-finger draw to the face is superior for a number of reasons, and Western bows being longer makes them more stable and forgiving.
    So your saying that the fingers you use and the bows that are used makes a better archer?

    I thought there would be some skill involved.

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    Yeah, there's skill, but there's a difference between methods, and Western archery developments have surpassed Eastern methods.

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    Beg to differ. The Eastern bows get more velocity and greater efficiency out of a shorter weapon. The Mediterranean draw doesn't give greater accuracy or rate of fire. It's no easier to learn and it is worthless unless you are on foot. The horse and composite bow ruled most of the world up until the wide adoption of repeating firearms.

    If the style of archery you are more familiar with were definitely superior it would have replaced all others during the time when the bow was a widespread weapon. Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Tuvans and more came up against the European bow and its techniques and didn't switch over. If anything it tended to go the other way. Hungary - famous for its archers - adopted the Eastern style. So, if memory serves, did the Poles and Russians at least in part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tellner
    Beg to differ. The Eastern bows get more velocity and greater efficiency out of a shorter weapon.
    The shorter bows used in places like Crimea shot a faster arrow than longbows from England by virtue of being shorter, but recurves from Greece were the same as recurves from China, for all intents and purposes.

    The Mediterranean draw doesn't give greater accuracy or rate of fire.
    For war, accuracy is irrelevant. For target shooting, the face anchors bring the string into the sight window allowing for alignment, and gives several reference points in addition to solid anchors. This allows for more repeatable shooting.

    It's no easier to learn and it is worthless unless you are on foot. The horse and composite bow ruled most of the world up until the wide adoption of repeating firearms.
    The Sarmatians, Scythians, Huns, and dozens of other horse archer cultures used variations of the Mediterannean release, and Kassai Lajos, the leading horse archery revivalist, uses the Mediterannean.

    If the style of archery you are more familiar with were definitely superior it would have replaced all others during the time when the bow was a widespread weapon. Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Tuvans and more came up against the European bow and its techniques and didn't switch over. If anything it tended to go the other way. Hungary - famous for its archers - adopted the Eastern style. So, if memory serves, did the Poles and Russians at least in part.
    The Hungarians and Poles had archery traditions dating back to Huns and earlier, so they were use composite recurves long before the Arabs, Turks, Mongols, or Tuvans were historically relevant. But don't let history get in your way.

    An Olympic shooter (which is what I was talking about in the first place) will out perform a Mongolian every time, better equipment or not. The Olympic shooter has the advantage of decades of scientific research going into his shooting style, and has an inherently superior form because of it. There's different ways to shoot a bow, but there's a best way too.

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