Thread: Jeff Speakman has da real AK?
1/05/2007 10:58pm, #91Originally Posted by Mawashigeri
1/07/2007 2:24am, #92
Originally Posted by hoodedmonk
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you have more of a chance of running into aguy with a gun then a martial arts background. and if he has a gun you are screwed.
1/07/2007 3:30am, #93
Yep! I can honestly say that outside of the gym I have never been in a fight with anybody with any real ma. skills.
1/07/2007 6:33am, #94Originally Posted by Jkdbuck76
1/07/2007 6:53am, #95Originally Posted by Axelton
He could have offered MMA classes, but instead he chose to add MMA to Ke?po.
Why? Becasue he has spent his life in Ke?po. He can say...."Im a 6th deg BB, in Ke?po." This gives him some credibility to the masses. If he just started teaching MMA, then people would ask him for a fight record. He doesnt have one. SO he revamped it, and called it k5.0 for the already recognized name of Ke?po.
Ke?po has come up in value since Chuck Lidell has won the UFC LH Belt. He has a Kenpo tat on his arm. There are Ke?po instructors here that will tell you that people call them all the time and mention CL, before they start taking classes.
So, people watch MMA fights (UFC). They see Chuck. They want to take Kenpo, thinking it will make them a badass like CL. They see that Kenpo doesnt have the skill sets being taught in it that CL has. They leave.
SO the logical step is to give them what they want. Add MMA to the curriculum.
I dont know him. He seems like a decent guy from all accounts. Yet you must know that in the back of his mind, he is wanting K 5.0 to succeed in the ring, and thus create a Dynasty much like the Gracies did. He says he isnt training fighters for the ring.
I say, yes....he is. That is the BEST ad time he can ever get.
1/07/2007 8:02am, #96
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Ithink when he says he isn't training fighters for the ring, he means that although he obviously wants them to succeed in the ring for the advertising benefits, he is training ( or incorporating techniques) in their training that arent applicable in the ring but may make his fighters more potent in a dirty street fight rather than a true mma sports athlete.
1/07/2007 8:14am, #97Originally Posted by Mawashigeri
He isnt training fighters, but he is teaching them 5.0 for use in the ring for the advertisement.
See how that contradicts itself?
Now as far as the "str33t" fighting goes. Thats great, if he is teaching the grappling and techniques in an "alive" manner. If the sparring sessions for ALL of the 5.0 students looks like the video that was posted, then WOW!!
Still, all I see is MMA. A capitalization on the hottest trend in sports. Having said that, if there isnt an MMA school near you then 5.0 might be the next best thing.
Again though, why not just teach an MMA class? Please see my earlier post for the reasoning behind that. Notice that he enlisted the help of someone, while not an actual MMA fighter, like say.....Tito Ortiz (Sherman , was mostly a ref) he does have MMA experience, which lends 5.0 some creds.
1/07/2007 8:38am, #98
I like my Kaju dojo because it is run by my boss, I get a deep discount, we get groundwork training from a BJJ student, and the sessions are alot more 'live' than the McDojos in my area. (sparring after Sifu thinks you are ready)
However I can see the same type of move to capitilize on the MMA craze. There is an 'MMA' hour and the people who sign up specifically for that class get black red striped pants and a t-shirt instead of a Gi, wear padded UFC style gloves, and learn some basic striking combinations and takedown defenses. The spinning backfist is even thrown in.
But because I go to both the Kajukenbo and MMA classes, I can see how similar they are. There are still katas, albeit not from horsestance, and 'defense' drills included in Kaju like backgrab, frontgrab, etc.
Just like 5.0 whatever If someone really wanted to learn 'MMA' style of fighting they are in the wrong place and should go to the source.
Another bit of marketing genius for the dojo is that the sign outside says 'Karate' Who is going to know what 'Kajukenbo' is anyhow?
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1/07/2007 1:21pm, #99
Originally Posted by nunonbreak
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1/07/2007 1:23pm, #100
Originally Posted by AxeltonKnowing is not enough, you must apply...
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