5/11/2006 1:11pm, #21Originally Posted by jnp
To me it isn't just the grips, it isn't just the pace. It is more that you have to do things "right" in regards to escapes and some other aspects other things. Conversely your positioning has to be better and "more right" nogi, as does your setup for subs and your technique.
5/11/2006 1:53pm, #22Originally Posted by UpaLumpaOriginally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
5/11/2006 3:07pm, #23Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
It works both ways. If it's harder to escape and defend in the gi, your escapes and defense will get better. If it's harder to submit and control in no gi, your submissions and control will get better.
5/11/2006 3:12pm, #24
One of my really fond moments was going into a no gi day at the GA, and giving a purple belt a hella of a time rolling. He got me with an armbar, but didn't believe at the time I only had 3 months of training.
I just bucked and musculed through everything, ala controlled spas boy.
The next week he got me in gi class and tapped me like a drum.
Ahhh, the mammmoories! :)Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
5/11/2006 3:13pm, #25Originally Posted by fatherdog
Both are fun. Both are good.
5/11/2006 3:16pm, #26Originally Posted by pauliMore human than human is our motto.
5/11/2006 7:38pm, #27
Gi forces you to getter better at your escapes. No-gi forces you to get better at your controls.
I think you should do both to be a well-rounded grappler. I personally find gi to be more fun. However in summer we switch to no-gi for a few months and I quite enjoy changing things up. No-gi allows me to get easier underhooks and so I get to work my hooking sweeps more. It also forces me to work my leglocking game and my back-control game more because I can't do my gi chokes from side control.
5/12/2006 9:47am, #28
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I agree with Aesopians viewpoint. No-gi forces you to learn how to control your opponent in ways that are not dependant on the cloth, for example, in turn making you aware of how important hip-control and positioning are. Rolling no-gi also made me aware of underhooks and how they could be used to a much greater extent. It also made me appreciate the back-mount position alot more, so I know that rolling no-gi has added to my gi-game.I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.
"Step away," I hissed.
5/12/2006 10:12am, #29
stupid question, but what's keeping anyone from practicing no-gi techniques while wearing a gi? i'm pretty sure you're allowed to not grip the gi if you want to work on no-gi stuff.
5/12/2006 10:23am, #30Originally Posted by MaverickZ
Another example, turning towards trapped leg in half guard no gi, start of setup for a sweep. Gi, often gets me choked out when he reaches round with his opposite hand.