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    I'd like to make it clear that that quote was a joke. Sorry for not making it obvious enough. Please don't sic the inquisition on me.

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    I wasn't singling you out. I was just reminded of how much I hate lockflow is by your post, so I thought I'd quote it.

    Don't worry, I wasn't trying to send you down in flames or anything.
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    Corporal Hicks agrees:

    Lift off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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    Mostly, I just sit here. Mostly. hall of famestaff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbanzo Bean
    :: shame face ::

    I've used that to submit n00bs and pussies, it was fun and easy!

    DON'T JUDGE ME!

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    It's almost like a "wierd stuff we've seen work before" haven. Personally, I like the method described in the Bulgarian Headlock of forceful head control from a fairly standard clinch. The thought of subbing someone with it, however, is a bit ambitious.
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    Hi. Just wanted to chime in real quick. I actually train with the guys from Lockflow. Most of the stuff you see there besides the most basic drills are just as you put it interesting or gimmicky stuff to check out and see if you can use. It is certainly not meant as a set of infallible techniques. I think the real value is to show stuff many might not have seen, and to evaluate it for yourself when you roll.

    As for the Superguard thing, you will notice this comment:

    "we tried this in practice and while it does suck the life out of you a simple forearm choke from the guy on top almost always forced the bottom guy to tap first"


    I mean, if you don't think a technique will work don't use it, or register and say so. I doubt you'll hurt their feelings.


    If you actually rolled with these guys I think you would find that they teach very down to earth stuff, and very little of what is posted on lockflow. Simply because most of the time you only need those meat and potatoe style submissions.


    -Fireplug

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickZ
    you know, i hate pissing in the ocean because the realization that i'm swimming in urine doesn't appeal to me... but dammit i wanna put the x-choke from under top mount on lockflow. you know the one, from MAPNYC.
    Why did you have to remind me of that ****. T_T
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatical
    Why did you have to remind me of that ****. T_T
    i like to watch you wince

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireplug50
    If you actually rolled with these guys I think you would find that they teach very down to earth stuff, and very little of what is posted on lockflow. Simply because most of the time you only need those meat and potatoe style submissions.


    -Fireplug
    It has nothing to do with the people that run lockflow. It's got to do with the quality of the the techniques they choose to show. Several other grappling websites manage to have large databases of quality techniques. There's nothing advanced or gimmicky about the techniques you'll find there, and if a gimmick technique is submitted, it's quickly voted down as ****.

    It's a shame that the archive the lockflow guys have right now consists of a large number of "lol tried this on a white belt last night" techniques. It's bad enough that the techniques are there, but the real crime is that the website seems to be a staple reference site on a lot of crappy martial arts forums. Like I said, they're giving retards sharp knives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbanzo Bean
    It has nothing to do with the people that run lockflow. It's got to do with the quality of the the techniques they choose to show. Several other grappling websites manage to have large databases of quality techniques. There's nothing advanced or gimmicky about the techniques you'll find there, and if a gimmick technique is submitted, it's quickly voted down as ****.

    It's a shame that the archive the lockflow guys have right now consists of a large number of "lol tried this on a white belt last night" techniques. It's bad enough that the techniques are there, but the real crime is that the website seems to be a staple reference site on a lot of crappy martial arts forums. Like I said, they're giving retards sharp knives.
    That is very true. As someone who does not typically cruise MA forums that could very well be true. I actually agree that it would be a huge mistake to see the Lockflow database as a primer for good techniques, and not a reference for "things that may get a tap, but probably won't".

    What kind of solution for Lockflow would you suggest?

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