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  1. Kengou is offline

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    5/20/2006 7:14pm


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    Well this event is over. I lost both my matches because I'm a total noob at any sort of competitive sport. Granted, the guy who beat me in no-gi went on to win his division and the guy who beat me in gi got 2nd in his.

    I did see J-Lau around, but I didn't get a chance to go say hi. Speaking of which, Joe, what'd you think of Fickett's match against Matt Sorana (sp?)? I noticed you two chatting a bit.
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    5/20/2006 7:55pm

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    Which one was Matt Sorana?
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    5/20/2006 9:41pm


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    I noticed you two chatting a bit.
    Sorry if this wasn't clear, I meant I saw you and Drew talking. Matt was the guy Drew fought in the superfight (replaced you).
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    5/24/2006 11:43am

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    Mat Santos. (One T in Mat... not Matthew, its Mathius. )

    I'm actually friends with both guys.

    Match went how I thought it would... just ended a little faster than I thought it would. Mat is very good... but so isnt Drew.
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    5/24/2006 1:17pm


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    Santos, that's it, sorry.

    I thought it was ubsurd that any skill level in no-gi could use any leg locks. There were kids in the teens division doing heel hooks. Everyone from my school there were white belts, our coach told us to just tap if they got us in a heel-hook or kneebar position since we don't train it at all. Those are dangerous locks though.
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    5/24/2006 1:25pm

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    Dangerous if you dont know them. If you are familiar with them, you know how to defend and when its time to tap. You guys didnt train them at all, so it was a "death touch" to you guys.... someone just needed to touch your ankle and you tapped.

    You dont even do knee bars? Where do you train? I know some people are weary of heel hooks... but kneebars are about as fundamental as it gets.
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    5/24/2006 2:00pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kengou
    Those are dangerous locks though.
    I can understand being gunshy about heelhooks, as they are dangerous without a degree of control, but KNEEBARS? Kneebars, while not my favorite technique, are pretty basic.

    Even if you're not going to use them in class, you should be familiar with escapes and counters to both of them.
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    5/24/2006 3:08pm


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    I don't get how you can train no-gi and not use leg logs... I almost heel hooked a guy at Naga in March, but he was too sweaty. And I was only in the novice bracket.

    I mean, there just aren't enough options with no-gi that pretty much every competition lets you use them.
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    5/25/2006 8:06am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgar
    I don't get how you can train no-gi and not use leg logs... I almost heel hooked a guy at Naga in March, but he was too sweaty. And I was only in the novice bracket.

    I mean, there just aren't enough options with no-gi that pretty much every competition lets you use them.
    I dont think its a lack of options so much as avoiding them is a lapse in attention to possibilities.... at both the attacking and defending end.
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    5/25/2006 2:15pm


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    I train with John Connors, a brown belt in Dedham. And I dunno, I've never learned a leg lock in the 8 or so months I've been training there, and I've never seen them taught to white belts at our school. After that tourny he said he'd start introducing basic leg locks (probably straight achilles, maybe kneebar) and some defenses.

    I had the impression Kneebars were dangerous too, if not as much as a heelhook. But what do I know?
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