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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Interesting. Never heard it put this way.
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     Style: Yang Taiji, Hsing-I

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    I don't know, external styles always look kind of clumsy in my opinion.

    We only ever do cross-legged stances with weapons in hand. It makes sense there.
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    I don't know, external styles always look kind of clumsy in my opinion.

    We only ever do cross-legged stances with weapons in hand. It makes sense there.
    Now I know you are a troll.

    Thank You.
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     Style: Yang Taiji, Hsing-I

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Now I know you are a troll.

    Thank You.
    Wrong.
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    Damn....... Let me get it right.

    Now I know you are a troll.

    Asshole.

    You are reinforcing what kage kaze is thinking of CMA weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Damn....... Let me get it right.

    Now I know you are a troll.

    Asshole.

    You are reinforcing what kage kaze is thinking of CMA weapons.
    Wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Interesting. Never heard it put this way.
    It's kind of the point of doing longfist. Any decent CMA practitioner knows that the form is never precisely the way you fight. This is more or les true to different degrees. I'd say Xingyi movements are a lot more like application than longfist, but even they aren't exactly the same.

    I practice Lost Track Monk Fist (which is pretty "northern") and Xingyi together. Lost Track is, by default, pretty much like kickboxing with a couple of extra tricks up its sleave in terms of footwork and setting up combinations, but one of its conceits is to take the "short power" emphasized by an art like Xingyi and bring it back to longer movements. One example is staying relaxed through the shot but stopping instead of retracting at the point of contact (You don't do this every time) to deliver more power to the target. Internal arts trait this from the core first, but for a long movement you have to make sure that the antagonists do not tense in anticipation of stopping, but only at the point of actually stopping.

    The other reason to do long movements is because it's easier to feel when you're screwing up. If you don't move your hip into a punch, it'll show in your balance and you'll feel it not working.

    Of course, if you don't shorten it up in sparring, you'll just suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebeams
    Any decent CMA practitioner knows that the form is never precisely the way you fight. .
    Thank you.

    A form is only ever a tool for learning.

    Even Hsing-I, at least the way we train it. Yeah, it's possible for your punch to cover 7 or 8 feet in a fight, but only if you make contact within the first one or two. I would never launch a hsing-i punch from the range covered in the forms. That would be sheer madness!
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    Thank you.

    A form is only ever a tool for learning.
    Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebeams
    Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad.
    And I care about this why?

    I agree with the truth whereever it's found. So if you want me to disagree, stop speaking the truth.
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