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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuan
    Of course they were...there there hitman.:occasion1
    YOU LIE!!!! MY WORLD IS SHATTERED!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    The jab is actually a pretty revolutionary technique according to Mark Hatmaker in "Savage Strikes". It was createdf and used by James J. Corbett against John L. Sullivan. Prior to that, the lead hand was used to simply post against the other guy while you plastered him with rear hand haymakers.
    I seem to recall a couple threads with people saying the jab far predates Corbett, just that his use really got it off the ground.
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    ...Still, if the ancient chinese DID spar and train hard, etc.....then why the need for these awesomely (useless) forms and practices?? I believe in an ancient post Omega stated that kung fu isn't gonna look all flowery etc. in a real fight, it's going to look like what we associate with kickboxing for the most part. So uh, why the need for all the flailing, gay-hairdresser windmilling of hands??

    I believe someone else (sorry I don't recall who) said it best -- in the old days, kung fu DID work because you were fighting other people who also used kung fu. Kind of like someone who was great at mcdojo kungfooey being able to defeat someone who uses the same style kungfooey.

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    Omega also likes forms.

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    Touche!

    But I wonder *how* Omega does his forms? Power in every motion? (For that matter, I doubt his KF is the windmill-y variety, but even if it is, it doesn't show in his fighting....)

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    From my exposure to longfist, you do the forms in long, low stances to build leg strength/stability, you have long "flailing" motions with your arms because you are practicing "extending" your arms. I would imagine that they do that as a beginning conditioning exercise, and then when they fight they do it upright with their arms bent and up as is more practical. I learned a couple longfist forms, and only ever used them for conditioning...

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    No, they don't. If you practice like that you fight like that trust me.

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    It seems the forms and "sparring" which includes the guard and armbars (yeah, thats long fist kung fu) are used by the 12 year old senior members of the cult to impress the 6 year old members of the cult and keep them in line.

    iBecuase f those Jr. kung fu fighters ever learned that its BULLSHIDO the 12 year olds are passing off as self defense, there is a good chance any of them would beat the living **** out of the senior members.

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    The only thing worth learning are the weapon form/kata. I especially like the spear play.

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    Naw, the swords and spear weren't that good.

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