Most practical throw ?

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 2:55pm

Originally Posted by peng

Are you saying that the situation, and not the practicioner, determines the strategy?

Pretty much, that's a tenet in the art of war. The best strategists are the ones who choses the situation, time and place of battle. Think Napoleon or Alexander...

... in essence, a good practitioner will strive to chose those strategies from among the ones he knows that will give him the best chance to win a confrontation in a given situation. The extreme opposite of that is the practitioner who just tries to wing it...

... in that case, if all we have is a hammer, and all we know is how to swing it, then everything begins to look like a nail.

**Askari** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 2:59pm

Thanks Greece and DCS, ruining my old Judo dreams again. You guys didnt have the judo coach who yelled "The counter to O-Soto-Gari is O-Soto-Gari"?

Still like the throw - though highest percentage for gi-competition is probably elnyka's avatar: uchi-mata.

**peng** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 3:00pm

Originally Posted by elnyka

Pretty much, that's a tenet in the art of war. The best strategists are the ones who choses the situation, time and place of battle. Think Napoleon or Alexander...

... in essence, a good practitioner will strive to chose those strategies from among the ones he knows that will give him the best chance to win a confrontation in a given situation. The extreme opposite of that is the practitioner who just tries to wing it...

... in that case, if all we have is a hammer, and all we know is how to swing it, then everything begins to look like a nail.

Wise words, indeed.

Go Rin No Sho teaches not to prefer any one weapon over another. To die with a weapon undrawn is stupid.

I just realized that I'm likely to be within a couple hours drive from you next winter. I must keep this information in mind.

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 4:18pm

Originally Posted by Askari

Thanks Greece and DCS, ruining my old Judo dreams again. You guys didnt have the judo coach who yelled "The counter to O-Soto-Gari is O-Soto-Gari"?

Still like the throw - though highest percentage for gi-competition is probably elnyka's avatar: uchi-mata.

BTW, my avatar is a scan from the front cover of my fav judo book - The Secrets of Judo by Jiichi Watanabe and Lindy Avakian :)

**DCS** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 4:51pm

Originally Posted by Askari

You guys didnt have the judo coach who yelled "The counter to O-Soto-Gari is O-Soto-Gari"?

Not Judo (Euro Jiu Jitsu, but coach had a lot of Judo under his belt) but yes, i've been always told the same.

And don't blame me, blame "t3h intherweb" :)

**Hannibal** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 6:15pm

Originally Posted by Virus

Judo doesn't work on the str33t hanibal. Didn't ninjitsu teach you anything?

Judo doesn't work on the street ?

All that hard athletic training, all that sparring against Judoka who are on both State and National teams. It's all useless.

Why the **** didn't you tell me this before ? !!!!

*Holds head in hands*

What have I done ?

**BoardHitBack** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 6:22pm

Bet you wish you had stuck to dead patterns in tabi now, don't you!

Now prepare for the Return of the Face Punch of Doom!

**DAYoung** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 6:29pm

Judo is useless on the street because it is 'the gentle way', whereas the street is rough. Also, you don't wear a gi on the street. Simple.

**BoardHitBack** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 6:33pm

Originally Posted by DAYoung

Also, you don't wear a gi on the street. Simple.

Who doesn't wear their gi on the street?

**DAYoung** · Posted On: 4/30/2006 6:36pm

Well, I wear mine, but all the street thugs don't. Many I time have I attempted a simple hiza garuma and found myself snatching in vain at a t-shirt. Once they counter with a street variant of seoi-nage, I am doomed.