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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean0r
    I'm not sure we need to insult philosophy while insulting psych. How about we distinguish academic philosophy from new-age metaphysical crap philosophy?
    I study philosophy as well. Alot of both are crap. We have entered an age were everyone attempts to disprove older philosophers without adding anything to the pot in fear of being ripped to shreds by their peers (there are a few people this generalization doesn't address but they are unique and not the norm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locu5
    How about you go ponder your navel and STFU, hippy?
    I prefer to never look directly at my navel... its scary.

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    I have created my own theor of psychology:

    "Everyone is a crazy, evil bastard, to some degree, and there are no exceptions whatsoever. I am no different, and I have yet to meet anyone that fits the definition of 'sane'. Everyone has something wrong with them, and our disorders shape the trait we call 'personality'. We are doomed once Cthulhu breaks free."

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    I made it all the way to page 23 and still no video... wasn't that the point of the whole thread (at least the beginning)? Why tell everyone about the video you are going to put up, and then never put it up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolinz
    I study philosophy as well. Alot of both are crap. We have entered an age were everyone attempts to disprove older philosophers without adding anything to the pot in fear of being ripped to shreds by their peers (there are a few people this generalization doesn't address but they are unique and not the norm).
    I'm not sure about that. I'd say rather that the problem with modern philosophy is that a lot of the areas that were of historical significance to philosophers have been relegated to other fields. Consequently, a lot of modern philosophy tends to incorporate those other fields. Philosophy of Mind without neuroscience is generally severely lacking. Similarly, ethical theory without psychology and sociology is generally lacking as well.

    As for modern philosophers who have made an impact, though, I don't tend to agree. I mean, Being and Time was written only 80 years ago (in the grand scheme, that's very recent) and it's a work of tremendous importance and insight. Most recently, there is a lot of interesting stuff in philosophy of mind and science, ethical theory, and gender related/feminist philosophy. I did tend to see a lot of historians wearing their philosopher hat as they walk around the philosophy department, but at the same time, philosophy as we conceive it in the West is most definitely a Platonic dialogue. Philosophers build on their forefathers by responding to them in new and interesting ways. Of course, not everyone is smart or creative enough to respond to Heidegger in a really new and interesting way, but you can't fault the state of philosophy now with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean0r
    I'm not sure about that. I'd say rather that the problem with modern philosophy is that a lot of the areas that were of historical significance to philosophers have been relegated to other fields. Consequently, a lot of modern philosophy tends to incorporate those other fields. Philosophy of Mind without neuroscience is generally severely lacking. Similarly, ethical theory without psychology and sociology is generally lacking as well.
    These new "social sciences" (y'know, the ones with highly subjective interpretions of data and different to Newtonian models in that there are generally a bucket load of exceptions to their laws) tend to have developed from specific areas of philosophical theory. Psychology is the bastard child of philosophy of mind- and, although I don't fall in the group that thinks so, sometimes considered unwanted. Philosophy of Mind without neuroscience...so the jury came in, did it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bean0r
    As for modern philosophers who have made an impact, though, I don't tend to agree. I mean, Being and Time was written only 80 years ago (in the grand scheme, that's very recent) and it's a work of tremendous importance and insight. Most recently, there is a lot of interesting stuff in philosophy of mind and science, ethical theory, and gender related/feminist philosophy. I did tend to see a lot of historians wearing their philosopher hat as they walk around the philosophy department, but at the same time, philosophy as we conceive it in the West is most definitely a Platonic dialogue. Philosophers build on their forefathers by responding to them in new and interesting ways. Of course, not everyone is smart or creative enough to respond to Heidegger in a really new and interesting way, but you can't fault the state of philosophy now with that.
    Derrida responded in a really new and interesting way to Heidegger (amongst others), but the problem is not a lot of people really have got to grips with his work. Most academics and/or philosophers have looked at his work and somehow come to the conclusion deconstruction is a postmodern philosophy and robbed what they could to further their own philosophical agenda. This is indictative of the state of (post)modern philosophy now.
    Early feminist philosophy is pretty questionable IMO- what was wrong with egaliteratism (sic!). The clue is in the title concerning its politics too. Equality? Not the agenda. It served the empowerment of a few ambitious women using the relatively new voter base they created thru the emanciption, and the ability to utilise inheirted wealth to take hold of economic power on an individual basis. Feminism, like all political ideologies, was a means to an end for those who wanted political and economic power for themselves. The movement for social change was merely a vehicle for this, and the dogma that underpinned its ideology has been coming apart at the seams since that was achieved.
    Philosophy of science has gotten so much to work with in the past century, I've given up any hope of a serious attempt to keep up.

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    "Everyone is a crazy, evil bastard, to some degree, and there are no exceptions whatsoever. I am no different, and I have yet to meet anyone that fits the definition of 'sane'. Everyone has something wrong with them, and our disorders shape the trait we call 'personality'. We are doomed once Cthulhu breaks free."

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