5/25/2006 11:26pm, #521
Originally Posted by kyokushinkid
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I just have to be faster than you.Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
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8/22/2006 12:49pm, #522Originally Posted by emboessoOriginally Posted by Dinosaur AMP
8/22/2006 2:26pm, #523Originally Posted by emboesso
First of all it was an OPEN style tournament. You think these WC people were hand picked? By and large the majority of competitors were Kyokushin, but you saw all kinds of styles there.
For example the Muay Thai stylist did very well. He withdrew in a later match.because he realized the weight differential would destroy him. The WC people didn't even get past the first round. They were horribly embarrassed.
The problem that none of the _ing _un people want to own up to is that they have very few competent, athletic practioners who COULD do well in that environment of full contact knockdown karate. This is compounded by the fact that they have the same problem in ANY format - especially today in MMA.
And for the record I doubt that Cho or Gwon would have done very well in that style of competition. Korean stylists are at a severe disadvantage when you add leg kicks into the mix.
8/22/2006 4:56pm, #524
Originally Posted by Acadian fury
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I have also taken many years of wrestling. When I was in jr. high and high school. Combined with training now, and just common sense, that is NOT a good way to defend a takedown. If you were to find some way to stop the forward motion of a takedown first, Ie: sprawl, then palm him in the back of his head or piss on his back for all i care to your heart's delight.
I have heard that touted as a way to actually stop a takedown, but if you see an example of it working it is not because the "palm" stops the takedown, it is because the momentum is stopped for some other reason/technique and the palm/fist is the punishment given because the person is now in a shitty position.
But the palm alone? or the knee alone? no way. In highschool did you ever practice changeovers? raise your knee and the moment you moved it off the ground you have now effectively decreased your resistance to the takedown by half. Again you need to find a way to stop the forward momentum that is reliable and can be repeatedly used.
8/22/2006 5:24pm, #525Originally Posted by emboesso[img=http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2364/8026700123940loij9.th.jpg]
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8/23/2006 12:17pm, #526
Originally Posted by emboesso
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Muay thai fighters come in all sizes,
8/23/2006 1:37pm, #527
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i take the dreaded jeet kune do, and we do a lot of your dreaded wing tsun, and just as an FYI to do most of the wing chun techniques you cant have boxing gloves on. i think a guy who strictly did wing tsun would get beat up in ufc, but i don think knowledge of wing chun can hurt at all.
8/23/2006 4:31pm, #528
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Oh dear... such a noob.
Knowledge of Wing Chun can hurt because it can fill your head with a whole lot of unapplied nonsense that will get you bashed in a fight.
Thats not to say that it couldnt be effective in some utopian universe... but in order to make it effective Wing Chun would have to be made full-contact in its training (something more akin to Kyokushin)... if it made this big step then it would be more respectable, more practical, and probably do well in NHB style competitions... along with all other full-contact MAs like MT, boxing, Judo, BJJ etc etc.
8/23/2006 5:34pm, #529Originally Posted by emboesso