F-in' ego in grappling arts

**Emevas** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:29am

Here's my rant. I am so sick of everytime I walk into a grappling class (BJJ is way guilty of this, but all grappling seems equal), when the instructor says "go 30% intensity here guys", I get Rickson going apeshit trying to tear my head off or wrench kimuras on me. It's a fucking warmup, not a match. Stupid fucking ego bullcrap that isn't conducive to training.

I swear, the next time someone does this ****, I'm gonna straight knee them in the face, and when they go "Dude, WTF?" I'll go "Oh, sorry, you were going so intense I thought we were having a MMA match" =P

**Hannibal** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:35am

Try telling them that your new and to play easy. I know alot of grapplers don't know their own strength.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:36am

Reasons I don't like to grapple new blood, I busted one of the new guys elbows today because he muscled out of everything and thought he could do it from an inverted kimura.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:36am

It's a fuckin' warm-up man...I really shouldn't need to tell them that.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:43am

Originally Posted by Omega

Reasons I don't like to grapple new blood, I busted one of the new guys elbows today because he muscled out of everything and thought he could do it from an inverted kimura.

That's just poor club ettiquette. I got a little grappling experience and some wrestling, but I'm tapping out constantly in my new club because I'm the new guy and I'm not there to prove myself. No one is gonna benefit that way. Yeah, if someone fucks up the triangle and there's no pressure, I won't tap, but it's not a frickin' match.

**eviechu** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:50am

Originally Posted by Emevas

I'm tapping out constantly in my new club because I'm the new guy and I'm not there to prove myself.

Yeah that is pretty much gonna happen when your a noob to BJJ. Now... they shouldn't wrench your arm in kimuras or armbars... but yeah.. your gonna get smashed on and your gonna get tapped alot until you learn not to. I am not condoning lets just hurt this noob... but I am not gonna tap a newb out less just because he is new.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:53am

Originally Posted by Emevas

That's just poor club ettiquette. I got a little grappling experience and some wrestling, but I'm tapping out constantly in my new club because I'm the new guy and I'm not there to prove myself. No one is gonna benefit that way. Yeah, if someone fucks up the triangle and there's no pressure, I won't tap, but it's not a frickin' match.

Poor club etiquette?

**Emevas** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 1:56am

Originally Posted by eviechu

Yeah that is pretty much gonna happen when your a noob to BJJ. Now... they shouldn't wrench your arm in kimuras or armbars... but yeah.. your gonna get smashed on and your gonna get tapped alot until you learn not to. I am not condoning lets just hurt this noob... but I am not gonna tap a newb out less just because he is new.

I'm a newb to BJJ, but not to grappling. I hold my own against guys who've been there a year or so, but I'm saying that I'm not muscling out of subs left and right and treating every role like it's the last. It's like "He got the armbar, tap, start over" not "he got it, HULK SMASH!!!"

**elbowtko** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 2:08am

Our gym just introduced MMA classes and I recently started taking some. We brought guys from this BJJ gym into our Muay Thai/ Boxing gym.

Couple things, those BJJ could kick my ass. But thier striking was inferior (obviously cause they don't practice it)

So when we practice MMA, theres little room for being a egoistic prick. Strikers learn new things such as the guard and take down defense and the grapplers help us out. When it time to learn some striking the reverse happens. There has to be a good reason how why grapplers have such a high ego, but when there is room to learn new things coporating is the best way to learn it.

Maybe the dude is just pissed off for warming up with a newb. ( "why the **** am I getting paired up with this newb? I better kill this guy I so the instructor will set me up with a different partner"

**Emevas** · Posted On: 5/17/2006 2:10am

Dude, it was like the whole gym today. We paired off with different folks every 3 mintues or so.

But yeah, I hear ya, when you throw striking into the mix, I've never really had this happen.