Thread: Boxing progression
4/24/2006 6:45pm, #11Originally Posted by Carbon
In the beginner's class you work on basic technique.
You work on going under punches, slipping left to right from punches, then you work on basic punches like jab/cross/hook. All while the instructor is checking your stance and correcting anything you are doing wrong.
I learned very very fast in this enviroment. Bag work was good, and then you do mild sparring in the advanced class. Meaning spar only using jabs to the stomach. Then spar only using jabs to the head, then spar only using jab to the head and right cross to the stomach.
You just increase the amount of power and technique you are implementing into each workout and after awhile the instructor will feel you are ready (whenever that is) then he will have you start sparring for real in a ring with headgear.
I suggest finding a place like this. You are working out, doing kata which is basically just the same punches and combinations over and over, and then you are applying it to sparring. I love it and I think you would like it as well.
4/25/2006 6:32am, #12
hmm, sounds kinda crappy to me. the way we do things is similar to what carbon says, we have a beginners and an advanced class. the beginners class is all partnerwork so the noobs are paired up with more experienced guys while our coaches walk around the room and watch people, correcting technique. once you done that for a few months and if you look like you have the **** neccessary you go into the fighters class which is basically just sparring, and on one day a week bagwork.
I dont think putting guys in a sparring class on their first day does much except give the more experienced guys someone to beat on. part of the two month waiting period is the rest of the class getting to know the guy. we are very much a social club so there is less chance of someone who is a friend getting rubbed out by a more experienced guy who is having a shitty day than some random. Plus, nobody wants to watch a guy flail like a bitch and cower when hes being hit.
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4/25/2006 10:07am, #13
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There are lots of different approaches to boxing. I've had a number of "hands off" type of boxing coaches that just let you come in, shadowbox, hit the pads and bags, then go home. They would come over to occassionally make a correction or hold pads for you, but that was the exception to the rule, not the norm.
I've also worked with "hands on" coaches, that pay attention to you and work with you throughout the training, drilling you on technique until you got it RIGHT! Standing over you to ensure you are doing what you need to be doing and that its correct!
I've also worked with coaches that fall in-between the two categories.
All of them were successful coaches, professional and amateur coaches. You just have to find the training style that suits you best. Each individual responds best to different types of coaching.
Now, as far as the progression of skills, I've always been taught over the years that you learn how to strike through the following progression:
2. Heavy Bag
3. Mitt & Pad Work
4. Controlled Partner Drills, without Mitts/Pads, but not Sparring
7. Owning the technique
#7 is important. It kinda like acheiving total mastery of an individual technique. Its when you have learned it inside & out the way you have been TAUGHT to use it, and then are able to make little subtle adjustments to what you've been taught so that it works best for you and your fight game.
4/26/2006 4:18pm, #14
Originally Posted by Khun Kao
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Lesson 4: Quite different tonight, SAS then 5 rounds of shadow boxing in a ring - no comments or pointers but some of the other new guys received a word or two and then.... sparring!
First experience of properly getting hit and the first bit of unsolicited advice - 'Don't look away' gasp. Lots of fun. Pretty unsure about the intensity to go at. Don't want to try and kill the guy but by not pressing it I end up getting hit.
Sadly what I have been taught is that I'm still prone to nose bleeds... nuts. Time to find out if I can do anything about it because if it happens every session, it probably puts the brakes on this.
4/26/2006 4:34pm, #15Originally Posted by Kvetch
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4/26/2006 6:24pm, #16
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- W. Yorks, UK
Even the coaches in the rough, run down boys club I went to took beginners aside and taught them basic hand technique and footwork before turning us loose. Have they shown you nothing at all?
4/28/2006 2:01pm, #17Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
4/28/2006 5:55pm, #18Originally Posted by Lu Tze
Once the coaches recognize your face and see that you really want to train, they should start to help you a bit more.
You have to remember, there are only a few coaches for a larger number of fighters. Some of the fighters may be training for upcoming bouts, and the coaches need to invest time working with them. If they are getting a guy ready to fight in a tournament who has several years in, he is going to take priority over a newb. That is just the way it is.
Being prone to bleeding really sucks if you want to box. We had an Asian guy at my old gym years ago who was a great fighter, likely would have made a decent pro, but he bled like a stuck pig and got cut very easily.
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