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  1. Plasma is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinbushi
    Now the koto ryu parry is similar to the SBG Crazy monkey defense so that is useful.

    was that sarcasm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
    It's do-able. The average is closer to 5 and definitely less than 10.

    Which Pedro Sauer school was it?

    What school do you train at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageKaze
    was that sarcasm?
    No. it was not that sarcasm. CMD is very useful and the koto ryu parry is similar. Not quite the same but similar.
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    oh ok, cause I was going to say I found Koto Ryu counters and parryies very useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinobi_jebus
    my instructor told me,(and several of the higher ranks in the dojo) that the big sweeping circular movement is too encourage movement of the hips into the block.
    when my instructor does it , it looks like he is almost just swinging his lead arm straight across without dropping it and he still gets the angle enough too dissrupt the balance and the attack.
    virus it really seems from your comments that you really missed something in your 6 years of training or that you are purposefully talking down on your training due too whatever personal reason it is you have.
    cmon man which is it? bullshido or slander?
    Why do you need all of that momentum and force in a block, though? That seems like wasted energy. Shouldn't you just deflect the incoming punch or check a kick, and then attack on your own?

    I agree with Shinbushi... some of those methods were meant for striking and grappling in armor, and as no one really runs around in yoroi these days, they're not practical. I see no reason to not learn them as cool historical artefacts, but they're not realistic for fighting.

    Sci-MDK, this brings me to my next point. I love learning sword arts, Western and Oriental. I highly doubt that these arts will ever be used in combat, so I don't care if I don't have a lot of alive training in those areas. In fact, I think alive training for kenjutsu is scary, because nothing but a real sword simulates the way a real sword acts. :) You can "spar" with shinai, and if your balls are really big, bokken, but it's not the same. Shinai and bokken don't move like a real sword moves. So I'm fine with training kenjutsu in kumitachi and kata form.

    But when you're talking about hand to hand fighting, or fighting with weapons that might see use in modern days (like knives), then you've got to spar, you've got to have full resistance, and it's got to be alive at some point, or else it just won't be there when you need it.
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    I've got a simple solution. Wear armor everyday and all the techniques become viable.
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    [quote=Arahoushi]Why do you need all of that momentum and force in a block, though? That seems like wasted energy. Shouldn't you just deflect the incoming punch or check a kick, and then attack on your own?

    you dont `need` that much force and momentum at all if you get the timing and the angle right. :new_smili
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageKaze
    6 semesters with them, 3 months with a Pedro Sauer school. Thats my BJJ expirence, what is the issue?
    The issue is that you have non-zero experience in a real art and choose something inferior.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinobi_jebus
    you dont `need` that much force and momentum at all if you get the timing and the angle right. :new_smili
    Timing is not something you're going to learn by training in bujinkan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
    Timing is not something you're going to learn by training in bujinkan.
    Sure it is, if all of your attackers lunge punch at you slowly and with plenty of warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath
    The issue is that you have non-zero experience in a real art and choose something inferior.
    And that eats you up inside doesn't it.

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